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Post by Deafshortman on Apr 26, 2017 5:26:03 GMT
I usually hate to introduce myself, so let me keep my introduction short. Just to start somewhere, because I don't want heightism to go unnoticed.
Born deaf, and I'm 5'6 ft tall. I'm a white guy. (Don't want anyone to get the wrong idea that I might be black, because weirdly enough, I've been thought of as a black person quite often for some reason)
That's all anyone needs to know for now.
Tired of trolls hating on short people on the internet. Painful to read those mean tweets about how worthless short people are. They have no right to talk like that, even privately to each other.
I can't help but feel immasculated by so many big people around me since I was growing up. Ruined my self esteem in the worst way. Felt helpless for quite a long time, even long after high school. Watched taller people get more praises and respect faster than I could ever imagine, even right in front of me. Made me so jealous, but didn't feel like I deserved that treatment at all. Felt like being rubbed in my face by women who praise tall men in front of me, mostly. Felt like they purposefully did this. It was too odd with the way they did that. Extremely immature on their part.
I'm 30 years old now. So far, not successful. Not as successful as taller people are at this age.
I have the tendency to try to do more than what I'm capable of... just to be taken seriously. Still doesn't work, because it makes me burn out and I get overworked. Worn out. Tired. Too much work. Overwhelmed. Postponed a lot because it's too much.
Saw so many short women going out with huge men. Literally, men who clearly stand OVER 6'0 ft tall who are packed with muscles. It feels like living in Netherlands, but I live in Nebraska. Very strange and scary, because that is not normal to me.
Went to the gym today and realized almost everyone were towering over me when I was walking around in the gym. I felt so inadequate. It's like a bad dream. I measured myself at the gym to make sure I wasn't shrinking, and surely enough, I'm still the exact same height. I was even embarrassed for measuring my height in public. It's just everyone has now gotten bigger and taller, including the women! Women are nowhere smaller than I anymore. Maybe they're all wearing 3" inch heel lifts. I dunno.
Feels like people my height or shorter are hiding somewhere, cuz I can't find them. Reason why taller people can't see short people is because short people don't want to be compared to anyone bigger than them. Short people must fight and just walk around out there WITHOUT those stupid lifts. I need to see more of them around so I can feel normal again.
I want to be at peace with my height and see it as just a height. "Accepting" my own height is not what I want to think at all. Accepting it is like "being forced" to accept my height "flaw". I want to be at peace with my height stature. I don't want to think just because I'm small means I'm weak, useless, even worst, been seen as low as a "funny guy" sidekick. Just because I'm short doesn't mean I have to be a funny person. That's stereotyping.
I want short height to NOT be a form of weakness or a flaw in any way. I want height to NOT determine gender. I want height to NOT determine strength, or "overall well being". Taller height as a sign of "good health" has got to be a lie. I remember that when some kids grew too fast in their teens, it's considered a disorder.
I've seen a bunch of short guys beating up bigger men before. Agility, speed, training gets you that ability, not this stupid tall height that magically makes one better at everything. I dunno where that is coming from.
It's midnight now. Have had hard time sleeping since that weird twilight zone at the gym.
Hope to hear from you.
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Post by Luro2020 on Apr 26, 2017 15:11:04 GMT
I usually hate to introduce myself, so let me keep my introduction short. Just to start somewhere, because I don't want heightism to go unnoticed. Born deaf, and I'm 5'6 ft tall. I'm a white guy. (Don't want anyone to get the wrong idea that I might be black, because weirdly enough, I've been thought of as a black person quite often for some reason) That's all anyone needs to know for now. Tired of trolls hating on short people on the internet. Painful to read those mean tweets about how worthless short people are. They have no right to talk like that, even privately to each other. I can't help but feel immasculated by so many big people around me since I was growing up. Ruined my self esteem in the worst way. Felt helpless for quite a long time, even long after high school. Watched taller people get more praises and respect faster than I could ever imagine, even right in front of me. Made me so jealous, but didn't feel like I deserved that treatment at all. Felt like being rubbed in my face by women who praise tall men in front of me, mostly. Felt like they purposefully did this. It was too odd with the way they did that. Extremely immature on their part. I'm 30 years old now. So far, not successful. Not as successful as taller people are at this age. I have the tendency to try to do more than what I'm capable of... just to be taken seriously. Still doesn't work, because it makes me burn out and I get overworked. Worn out. Tired. Too much work. Overwhelmed. Postponed a lot because it's too much. Saw so many short women going out with huge men. Literally, men who clearly stand OVER 6'0 ft tall who are packed with muscles. It feels like living in Netherlands, but I live in Nebraska. Very strange and scary, because that is not normal to me. Went to the gym today and realized almost everyone were towering over me when I was walking around in the gym. I felt so inadequate. It's like a bad dream. I measured myself at the gym to make sure I wasn't shrinking, and surely enough, I'm still the exact same height. I was even embarrassed for measuring my height in public. It's just everyone has now gotten bigger and taller, including the women! Women are nowhere smaller than I anymore. Maybe they're all wearing 3" inch heel lifts. I dunno. Feels like people my height or shorter are hiding somewhere, cuz I can't find them. Reason why taller people can't see short people is because short people don't want to be compared to anyone bigger than them. Short people must fight and just walk around out there WITHOUT those stupid lifts. I need to see more of them around so I can feel normal again. I want to be at peace with my height and see it as just a height. "Accepting" my own height is not what I want to think at all. Accepting it is like "being forced" to accept my height "flaw". I want to be at peace with my height stature. I don't want to think just because I'm small means I'm weak, useless, even worst, been seen as low as a "funny guy" sidekick. Just because I'm short doesn't mean I have to be a funny person. That's stereotyping. I want short height to NOT be a form of weakness or a flaw in any way. I want height to NOT determine gender. I want height to NOT determine strength, or "overall well being". Taller height as a sign of "good health" has got to be a lie. I remember that when some kids grew too fast in their teens, it's considered a disorder. I've seen a bunch of short guys beating up bigger men before. Agility, speed, training gets you that ability, not this stupid tall height that magically makes one better at everything. I dunno where that is coming from. It's midnight now. Have had hard time sleeping since that weird twilight zone at the gym. Hope to hear from you.
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Post by Luro2020 on Apr 26, 2017 15:18:37 GMT
I usually hate to introduce myself, so let me keep my introduction short. Just to start somewhere, because I don't want heightism to go unnoticed. Born deaf, and I'm 5'6 ft tall. I'm a white guy. (Don't want anyone to get the wrong idea that I might be black, because weirdly enough, I've been thought of as a black person quite often for some reason) That's all anyone needs to know for now. Tired of trolls hating on short people on the internet. Painful to read those mean tweets about how worthless short people are. They have no right to talk like that, even privately to each other. I can't help but feel immasculated by so many big people around me since I was growing up. Ruined my self esteem in the worst way. Felt helpless for quite a long time, even long after high school. Watched taller people get more praises and respect faster than I could ever imagine, even right in front of me. Made me so jealous, but didn't feel like I deserved that treatment at all. Felt like being rubbed in my face by women who praise tall men in front of me, mostly. Felt like they purposefully did this. It was too odd with the way they did that. Extremely immature on their part. I'm 30 years old now. So far, not successful. Not as successful as taller people are at this age. I have the tendency to try to do more than what I'm capable of... just to be taken seriously. Still doesn't work, because it makes me burn out and I get overworked. Worn out. Tired. Too much work. Overwhelmed. Postponed a lot because it's too much. Saw so many short women going out with huge men. Literally, men who clearly stand OVER 6'0 ft tall who are packed with muscles. It feels like living in Netherlands, but I live in Nebraska. Very strange and scary, because that is not normal to me. Went to the gym today and realized almost everyone were towering over me when I was walking around in the gym. I felt so inadequate. It's like a bad dream. I measured myself at the gym to make sure I wasn't shrinking, and surely enough, I'm still the exact same height. I was even embarrassed for measuring my height in public. It's just everyone has now gotten bigger and taller, including the women! Women are nowhere smaller than I anymore. Maybe they're all wearing 3" inch heel lifts. I dunno. Feels like people my height or shorter are hiding somewhere, cuz I can't find them. Reason why taller people can't see short people is because short people don't want to be compared to anyone bigger than them. Short people must fight and just walk around out there WITHOUT those stupid lifts. I need to see more of them around so I can feel normal again. I want to be at peace with my height and see it as just a height. "Accepting" my own height is not what I want to think at all. Accepting it is like "being forced" to accept my height "flaw". I want to be at peace with my height stature. I don't want to think just because I'm small means I'm weak, useless, even worst, been seen as low as a "funny guy" sidekick. Just because I'm short doesn't mean I have to be a funny person. That's stereotyping. I want short height to NOT be a form of weakness or a flaw in any way. I want height to NOT determine gender. I want height to NOT determine strength, or "overall well being". Taller height as a sign of "good health" has got to be a lie. I remember that when some kids grew too fast in their teens, it's considered a disorder. I've seen a bunch of short guys beating up bigger men before. Agility, speed, training gets you that ability, not this stupid tall height that magically makes one better at everything. I dunno where that is coming from. It's midnight now. Have had hard time sleeping since that weird twilight zone at the gym. Hope to hear from you. Welcome to the forum! Yes,height should not determine quality of life,but the blame shifters,status quo,and constant tallboner that is only exaggerated by people who aren't aware of the mechanics of heightism makes it a prejudice,and one that we seriously need more allies joining in if we want to eradicate or get anywhere,but you seem like a proud short man and like you blame heightism,not short men,and we need more allies like you on our side, thanks for the post! We really need an influx of allies that are pushed to the end of being treated inferior and having heir issues minimized, and with the bbc segment, we seem to have gotten somewhat of an influx of short men who are tired of the nonsense we put up with. So Thank you so much got contributing,because short men like you and anyone that understands heightism are definitely a step in the right direction ,and another hurdle that the status quo faces.
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Post by Heightism Report on Apr 26, 2017 16:49:21 GMT
Welcome to the forum, Deafshortman! In your excellent post, you listed a number of desires you have in-regard to society's view on shortness, and the need for those views to change. As you well know, heightist views are deeply entrenched in the collective psyche and untangling that web of hatred, dismissal, and bias is quite the task. The number one issue we have right now(and I say this with a 100% degree of certainty) is "The Silence of The Short." The way society is currently structured, it is extremely convenient for people to have short men to treat as a lesser class of humans. Tall men receive a treasure trove of benefits for mere participation in life, thus, they want things to continue on their current path, and women, who absolutely worship tall men, also want this narrative to continue. So, what needs to be done, is the comfort zone that has developed around this discriminatory narrative needs to be made "not so comfortable." The way to do this is for short men to start stepping out of the shadows. Almost one-hundred percent of short men will never even have the courage to even question the current narrative like you did, much less write a post about it. Most short men are so terrified of being put in their place that they won't even articulate their plight anonymously on a message board. We need strength in numbers because when there is only a scant number of us addressing heightism, it is all-too-easy to dismiss us as extremists. We need short men to make it normal for short men to demand respect. We need bigots to feel the continual sting of what it feels like to be challenged. Women need to experience great discomfort for their double-standards, and everyone who discriminates against short men needs to feel as though they're going to be held accountable for their actions. Heightists have absolutely no fear of repercussions right now, thus, it is way too easy for them to just laugh everything off because short men being the self-loathers they are, are absolutely terrified of being grouped with other short men. Like it or not though, we are already grouped with one another by society. Everything we do is interpreted as evidence of some character flaw specific to short men. You mentioned going to the gym. Society sees that as evidence that you "overcompensate" for your height. People absolutely hate it when a short man does anything to exhibit a display of manhood because he's trying to "steal" rewards that are set aside for the tall men. If you didn't go to the gym and totally let yourself go though, at that point, you're just a sad excuse for a man who can't take care of himself, and the reason you are this way is "you can't get over the fact that you're short." We're in a no-win-situation, and when our fellow short men see this cycle re-perpetuated on a daily basis, they generally hide and become afraid of their own shadows. No marginalized group can get anywhere if the marginalized people don't work together to eradicate the issues they deal with collectively. Short men need to get their asses in gear if they ever want things to change.
With that being said, and as I already mentioned, by voicing your concerns, you've done what only a few short men have the courage to do. The aim of this message board is to establish an ongoing, uninterrupted, productive dialogue about heightism that doesn't lose its focus. Even though heightism has gotten worse in the past several years, the heightism dialogue has been further developed and we've established a workable template on how to voice our narrative. We're just waiting for strength in numbers to occur so that we can make enough noise to where our narrative can't be ignored and dismissed in the way that it is now. The more short men who voice their opinions on message boards like this one, blogs, interviews, in academic circles, and otherwise, the stronger we will be. It's up to short men to decide when they are tired of the taste of dirt, so every time a short man steps out of the shadows like you have done, we are getting closer to where we need to be. Once again, welcome to the forum and we'd love your input on the things we discuss here.
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Post by Deafshortman on Apr 27, 2017 16:15:11 GMT
Thank you so much for responding! I was super relieved to hear responses.
Funny, when I try to say something to someone else, business sites, or when I was on dating sites, nobody ever responded. EVER. In those sites, they always ask about my height, so I would always put in my height digits. That's probably the first thing they looked that caused them to not respond.
I'm the kind of guy who actually fought back growing up, even though I didn't think I would do that. The reason why I haven't realized my height was the issue was because I thought they were treating me like a kid due to the fact that I wear a hearing aid. Also, because I'm deaf, they usually went easy on me. It's just a tricky thing with how they talk to me and it would take me a really long time to explain why I don't really get mad at them for saying I can't hold a solid conversation. They don't treat me badly at all, they do help me out a lot, but when I see them treat a short hearing person, I found it very strange. He's short, not deaf, but why are people mistreating him?
I discovered heightism last year, because I wanted to find out why women are so ingrained into thinking a taller man means better life. My girlfriend kept mentioning about how tall guys are attractive and never mentioned anything about attractive shorter guys. She did mention, however, that her mom found Michael J. Fox attractive. Still, I don't think it helps when MJF started to have Parkinson's disease when he got older. Because of that, NOW everyone probably will think being short is an inferior trait.
Maybe a lot of short people don't form into a group is probably because they want to be perceived as tall as those who are taller. Taller people are seen as success and overall well being. It's why some shoe companies are making these useless, embarrassing elevator shoes, just so that short people could appear taller. It's so ridiculous, like a cartoon. Can't believe this is actually happening.
I just started and I'm still learning about heightism and how I think of people who are shorter than me. I also believe short people do also think they're superior every time they look DOWN on someone shorter than them. I'm short myself but I remember a few times before that I felt superior than someone smaller than I. I just couldn't help myself thinking like this. It's very wrong and my senses need to change to see that differently. That's probably why short people aren't forming into a group. They're against each other thinking one is taller than the other and doesn't deserve to be part of the short people category. They don't want to be called short because they saw a few more people shorter than them. Those who are shorter than short people also look normal in stature (not VERY short like the little people are, which have more obvious, distinct proportions to their body types), they just look smaller in frame with all the right proportions to match. That often blew me away every time I see that, because I thought I was the smallest.
I'm 5'6 myself but there have been people so much smaller than even my girlfriend who stands 5'1 ft tall. They don't even look wide, or have bigger head size like little people do. They look normal but much smaller.
I have to get going or I'll be in trouble. I'll check back here later on today.
So what I should do is spread the heightism among my friends, right? I know a few friends who are my height, so I'll try. Hopefully they also understand this serious form of descrimination.
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Post by Cole Geass on Apr 27, 2017 19:32:26 GMT
It's why some shoe companies are making these useless, embarrassing elevator shoes, just so that short people could appear taller. It's so ridiculous, like a cartoon. Can't believe this is actually happening. I'm in a disagreement with a lot of people in this community about this, but I don't think it's an issue we necessarily have to agree on in order to be a collective group. Women wear high heeled shoes. I've heard the excuses time and time again that "it makes their legs look nicer, their butts better" etc. There's also a social status to buying expensive shoes. But I can't help but feel a more deep, barely discussed reason is that women want to be taller too, and by wearing heels they can appear to be 5'8'' and 5'10''. I've talked about this before, but I honestly do believe women who are of average height are elevating themselves in order to weed out short men. In your case, you're 5'6''. A woman could be 5'4'', shorter than you and therefore has no real good reason to say you're too short for her, so she'll wear some 3 inch heels, become 5'7'' and now she's taller than you, thus giving her the excuse that "well you're shorter than me and I don't date shorter men." I've worn elevator shoes of 3 inches and met girls who did the same. It was so funny when we both removed our shoes and each shrunk several inches and realized how stupid it is to wear shoes like that in order to excuse bogus reasons for mate selection. PS i am 5'5'' normally and the girl i was with was 5'2'' normally. She had 3 inch shoes and I had 3 inch elevator shoes. If i had not worn them, we would have both appeared 5'5'' and I would have been not a worthy mate because i didn't appear taller than her. This is just a way for woman to overshoot their ideal height for a man and make it appear that they deserve only the tallest selections around because every average height male becomes equal to them or shorter in height when they wear their heels.
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Post by HeightismAOS on Apr 28, 2017 9:56:39 GMT
Women wear high heeled shoes. I've heard the excuses time and time again that "it makes their legs look nicer, their butts better" etc. There's also a social status to buying expensive shoes. But I can't help but feel a more deep, barely discussed reason is that women want to be taller too, and by wearing heels they can appear to be 5'8'' and 5'10''. You're not wrong Cole. I've seen how most people act like it never happens, but I saved this old thread because you can catch women admitting they also wear heels to be taller: archive.is/YGFbS
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Post by Heightism Report on Apr 28, 2017 17:04:28 GMT
It's why some shoe companies are making these useless, embarrassing elevator shoes, just so that short people could appear taller. It's so ridiculous, like a cartoon. Can't believe this is actually happening. I'm in a disagreement with a lot of people in this community about this, but I don't think it's an issue we necessarily have to agree on in order to be a collective group. Women wear high heeled shoes. I've heard the excuses time and time again that "it makes their legs look nicer, their butts better" etc. There's also a social status to buying expensive shoes. But I can't help but feel a more deep, barely discussed reason is that women want to be taller too, and by wearing heels they can appear to be 5'8'' and 5'10''. I've talked about this before, but I honestly do believe women who are of average height are elevating themselves in order to weed out short men. In your case, you're 5'6''. A woman could be 5'4'', shorter than you and therefore has no real good reason to say you're too short for her, so she'll wear some 3 inch heels, become 5'7'' and now she's taller than you, thus giving her the excuse that "well you're shorter than me and I don't date shorter men." I've worn elevator shoes of 3 inches and met girls who did the same. It was so funny when we both removed our shoes and each shrunk several inches and realized how stupid it is to wear shoes like that in order to excuse bogus reasons for mate selection. I absolutely agree with you on this. Not only do I constantly see Twitter trashlings writing idiocy about how much they love to "intimidate" short men with high heels, but they also are constantly tweeting about how they love how short men don't approach them when wearing heels. They feel "powerful" in the heels, which makes them feel like they have some type of dominion over short men, and they absolutely love that. I've told this story before, but I was in a bar a year or two ago, and I was standing just behind the chairs that were pressed-up to the bar. My friends were seated, and I was just standing there talking to them. Two girls in humongous heels walked inside and were stomping my direction. The cocky way they were walking was completely outlandish. So, I just resumed my conversation with my friends, and those two bitches had the entire area behind me to walk, but they ran right smack into me, and giggled as they were walking away. I called them a few choice words, but I don't think they heard me because it was a noisy bar, and my friends asked me what was wrong, and when I told them what happened, a tall guy who lingers around my friends sometimes totally denied that the incident happened.(He has a history of doing this, but he's a different story altogether) Anyway though, by artificially altering their height, women feel powerful, and they use that pseudo-power as a weapon against short men. Women in business settings will admit that they get more respect when they wear heels, and there used to even be a woman on r/short who was a school teacher, and she said that the students respect her much more so when she wears heels. Women know good and damn well that height has its privileges, and you are absolutely right in pointing-out that they use heels as a weapon against short men.
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Post by toughlimbs on Apr 28, 2017 20:14:55 GMT
It's why some shoe companies are making these useless, embarrassing elevator shoes, just so that short people could appear taller. It's so ridiculous, like a cartoon. Can't believe this is actually happening. I'm in a disagreement with a lot of people in this community about this, but I don't think it's an issue we necessarily have to agree on in order to be a collective group. Women wear high heeled shoes. I've heard the excuses time and time again that "it makes their legs look nicer, their butts better" etc. There's also a social status to buying expensive shoes. But I can't help but feel a more deep, barely discussed reason is that women want to be taller too, and by wearing heels they can appear to be 5'8'' and 5'10''. I've talked about this before, but I honestly do believe women who are of average height are elevating themselves in order to weed out short men. In your case, you're 5'6''. A woman could be 5'4'', shorter than you and therefore has no real good reason to say you're too short for her, so she'll wear some 3 inch heels, become 5'7'' and now she's taller than you, thus giving her the excuse that "well you're shorter than me and I don't date shorter men." I've worn elevator shoes of 3 inches and met girls who did the same. It was so funny when we both removed our shoes and each shrunk several inches and realized how stupid it is to wear shoes like that in order to excuse bogus reasons for mate selection. PS i am 5'5'' normally and the girl i was with was 5'2'' normally. She had 3 inch shoes and I had 3 inch elevator shoes. If i had not worn them, we would have both appeared 5'5'' and I would have been not a worthy mate because i didn't appear taller than her. This is just a way for woman to overshoot their ideal height for a man and make it appear that they deserve only the tallest selections around because every average height male becomes equal to them or shorter in height when they wear their heels. Same guy from op, just changed my name. I didn't think of that. Wow. If weeding out short men is their goal by wearing those heels, then they are so superficial. Even worst, they think their precious high heels are more important than short men, and that's very sexist, cuz it's almost as if short men are comparable to their shoes, like they think of short men as objects. Women gotta stop thinking just because she's taller with the aide of those heels now means she's automatically going to bear babies as tall as her without heels. Delusional and pathetic. However, there are women who are naturally tall, and they seem to have MUCH more forgiving attitude towards short men, I think. From my experience, taller girls seem a lot nicer than shorter girls. More friendly. Like an idiot I was, I kept turning them down. Nothing wrong with short women, but they need to start thinking of high heels a way to make her legs look more curvy and sexy to attract any man of any height stature, and not use those heels as an excuse to look taller, or "powerful".
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Post by toughlimbs on Apr 29, 2017 11:50:40 GMT
Just want to point out that there's a garmin vibe for short men to wear lifts.
Women can wear high heels cuz they don't hide the fact that they're wearing them. Their heels are there and it's obvious that she is standing on her toes.
Men, on the other hand, HIDE the fact that they're wearing high heels. That's right, lifts are high heels. These lifts are not obvious, but that's the point of hiding it. They're hiding their insecurity. They hate their own heights, and wear lifts to appear taller, so they feel better. That's like a garmin hiding that he's short. See what I mean?
I UNDERSTAND that you're wearing lifts to prove a point to girls who wear high heels, but I'm thinking that's why women now bring up their preferences about the minimal 6 ft tall requirements in dating sites. They found out about short men who wear lifts, and on a woman's mind, short men also see something in taller men. To women, that's what they believe. Any short man wearing lifts is giving away his power to taller men, and they're weeding themselves out. That makes it harder for us short men to be seen as equals.
Men who are shorter than their wives/girlfriends are REAL MEN. They don't emphasize height as a gender.
Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman is a good example. It helps taller women all over the world to not feel so conscious about their tall heights. (Tall means masculine, which is a blatant lie)
Remember the famous cartoon, Popeye? Short man gets to keep a tall, skinny girl and they look inseparable. Is his girlfriend more masculine than Popeye? Hell no!
Probably bad examples, but still...
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Post by Cole on Apr 29, 2017 21:06:27 GMT
Just want to point out that there's a garmin vibe for short men to wear lifts. Women can wear high heels cuz they don't hide the fact that they're wearing them. Their heels are there and it's obvious that she is standing on her toes. While this is true, height is seen at first glance while shoes are inspected later. First impressions are made right away, so the way people will treat you is often based on the first thing they notice, which is height. So even if men/women wore obvious or hidden height lifts, it doesn't matter because the first impression has been made. However, there is a certain stigma with men wearing elevator shoes - society sees it as men are weak and trying to compensate. While this may be true, it's hypocrisy that high heeled shoes for women are seen as expressive and playful, and never in any means of disrespect. This is just one of the many privileges women have in society when compared to men. At the end of the day, elevator shoes or high heeled shoes, both sexes are "wearing height" as a fashion accessory. It's just that it's socially acceptable for women to elevate themselves but not for men. I already told me story about how I dated a girl 3 inches sorter than me, but we both wore elevated shoes to our date. I still appeared taller than her with and without the both of us wearing shoes. If i had not worn them however, we would have appeared the same height and I would have been SOL.
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Post by toughlimbs on Apr 30, 2017 18:07:05 GMT
Just want to point out that there's a garmin vibe for short men to wear lifts. Women can wear high heels cuz they don't hide the fact that they're wearing them. Their heels are there and it's obvious that she is standing on her toes. While this is true, height is seen at first glance while shoes are inspected later. First impressions are made right away, so the way people will treat you is often based on the first thing they notice, which is height. So even if men/women wore obvious or hidden height lifts, it doesn't matter because the first impression has been made. However, there is a certain stigma with men wearing elevator shoes - society sees it as men are weak and trying to compensate. While this may be true, it's hypocrisy that high heeled shoes for women are seen as expressive and playful, and never in any means of disrespect. This is just one of the many privileges women have in society when compared to men. At the end of the day, elevator shoes or high heeled shoes, both sexes are "wearing height" as a fashion accessory. It's just that it's socially acceptable for women to elevate themselves but not for men. I already told me story about how I dated a girl 3 inches sorter than me, but we both wore elevated shoes to our date. I still appeared taller than her with and without the both of us wearing shoes. If i had not worn them however, we would have appeared the same height and I would have been SOL. But I NEVER see women's height first when they wear heels. Heels just make her look skinny, and they also make their feet look smaller, but they never make her look taller. LMAO! If she thinks heels make her taller, then she's the delusional one. They need to explain why so many short men approached them, even when they wear heels. Heels never intimidated short men. That's all in her imagination. LOL! When a girl wear high heels, in my eyes, is a sign of her submission to me. She's turned on or "erect" at the idea that I'm around. You probably disagree with me at the idea, but that's really how I see it. I believe a lot of short men think the same way. Imagine this, compare a girl wearing high heels to a girl wearing elevator shoes. Which one is more attractive? That's right, a girl wearing high heels is more attractive. In their heads, elevator shoes and high heels serve the same purpose, but I want to laugh my ass off on that!
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Post by Cole Geass on May 1, 2017 12:59:52 GMT
I don't know about this. I find it far more likely than women glorify the high heel shoes and shun elevator shoes for men. I think all society tends to be this way since society at large loves to take the side of women and feminism, especially about men. Women aren't seen as "compensating" for their lack of height when they wear high heeled shoes. They are seen as playful, expressive, fun, exciting and stylish. It's almost as if height is PORTRAYED by the media and outwardly that high heeled shoes have ~nothing~ to do with making women taller, however the opposite seems to be in effect. Women wear them in a business office to make themselves appear more authoritative. Women use them as an excuse to turn away men who may be their height or taller normally, but shorter when she wears high heeled shoes. Men on the other hand are seen ONLY negatively for wearing height as an accessory. It's seen as weakness. They are repeatedly told "work with what God gave you" or "just own your height." It's seen as pathetic for a man to try and increase his height to reach the same results as women - appearing more authoritative in the business office, etc. It's all the same thing just in a different style of shoe. It's just that men are laughed at and ridiculed (even by some people on these forums) and ESPECIALLY by Garmins/Tall Men when they find out someone wears elevator shoes. It's a double standard that I feel is too late for correcting. It's no wonder men are secretive about elevating their height and women are not.
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Post by Heightism Report on May 1, 2017 18:20:00 GMT
I don't know about this. I find it far more likely than women glorify the high heel shoes and shun elevator shoes for men. I think all society tends to be this way since society at large loves to take the side of women and feminism, especially about men. Women aren't seen as "compensating" for their lack of height when they wear high heeled shoes. They are seen as playful, expressive, fun, exciting and stylish. It's almost as if height is PORTRAYED by the media and outwardly that high heeled shoes have ~nothing~ to do with making women taller, however the opposite seems to be in effect. Women wear them in a business office to make themselves appear more authoritative. Women use them as an excuse to turn away men who may be their height or taller normally, but shorter when she wears high heeled shoes. Men on the other hand are seen ONLY negatively for wearing height as an accessory. It's seen as weakness. They are repeatedly told "work with what God gave you" or "just own your height." It's seen as pathetic for a man to try and increase his height to reach the same results as women - appearing more authoritative in the business office, etc. It's all the same thing just in a different style of shoe. It's just that men are laughed at and ridiculed (even by some people on these forums) and ESPECIALLY by Garmins/Tall Men when they find out someone wears elevator shoes. It's a double standard that I feel is too late for correcting. It's no wonder men are secretive about elevating their height and women are not. I agree with you fully, Cole. I think toughlimbs is arguing what he thinks about women who wear heels, but there is no doubt that women themselves feel like the are more "powerful" in heels, and the extra height is one of the reasons they feel this way. I like to refer to heels as "female lifts" to even the score with the way they treat men who wear lifts. I don't advocate for short men to wear lifts, but if women can get away with it, men should be able to do so as well, but of course, when women wear heels, it's "fashion," but if short men wear lifts(or even shoes that have a slightly larger sole than most shoes, such as Timbrlands or Air Force Ones) we're considered insecure losers with short man syndrome. Women are rewarded for artificially-altering their appearance, but if men do so, we're diagnosed with a made-up psychological disorder.
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Post by luro2020 on May 1, 2017 21:23:53 GMT
This is because men are supposed to "man up" and "deal with their cards dealt", and cosmetic procedures are considered feminine, plus poor women and "more power to women", so we are viewed as less masculine, and add on being short, we loose all manhood because of the stigma of being short and being a man who "couldn't deal with it" because of a very acute stigma of the 2 working against us in conjunctionction.
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