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Post by coolerguy on Jul 25, 2018 1:47:39 GMT
It’s totally disappointing on how most, if not all women are heightist to the core, and are totally complicit in making your life miserable as a short man. My experiences with heightism are far more common with women on a micro aggressive level. Seems like women go out of the way to point out that your short anytime they see fit. They use name calling, body language cues, or whatever gestures there are to try to inferiortize you for no good reason. To me Its seems really dumb and more immature coming from a woman than a man. Reason is women project themselves as more reserved. The funny part is that many of them shout for equality and being harassed but have no problem harassing short men. Growing up I used to have respect for women and just try to be the best gentleman I could be to them. After experiencing frequent heightism over the years, and then finally reading and educating myself on the topic, I somehow lost a lot of respect for them. I feel like I could never feel sorry for many of them, based on how many of them have no respect for you as a short man. Even though there’s more to heightism than dating, it’s also a common courtesy and respect aspect to it. Women make up 50 percent of the population, if not more. I’m so glad there is a Mgtow. I believe this heightist behavior they exhibit is extremely toxic and does nothing good for relations amoungst the population. I’m starting to believe that heightism is more to blame for the declining birth rate in our country and the gender gap, rather than all the other things they mention such as feminism and “women wanting careers”. I also read an article on how populations of species became extinct when the height gap between the sexes were greater. It could be that heightism is far more harmful than people think it is.
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Post by anthony on Jul 25, 2018 21:10:55 GMT
I think there's an interplay between all the factors you mentioned, but heightism is a big part. Especially when it comes to taking abuse from women. Every perceived injustice a woman has experienced at the hands of men builds up, and they need to lash out about it. They pick shorter guys, because their instinct is that there's less danger in it, and they believe that shorter men have less power and influence, so they won't be losing as much potential by making enemies of us. They need to wield power over someone, so they can feel better about themselves, and it's even stronger if that someone is a man. Too bad they miss the point that we're far more likely to be empathetic to their "plight" because we suffer the same types of discrimination they do.
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Post by HeightismAOS on Jul 25, 2018 22:52:07 GMT
Males discriminate against short men about as much, but women get away with it more for various reasons. For example if you call out a woman on her behavior, you'll get a bunch of white knights ready to save her. She can also pull the "women are oppressed and have it worse, so this is payback" bullshit.
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Post by shortandproud on Jul 25, 2018 23:20:33 GMT
Yes, women are extremely heightist. They just hide it like you said and put on a good little face to pretend to be for fair treatment of short men. What short men face is basically sexism, but without any of the support from society that women get.
Also in addition to what AOS said, most women just can't take criticism, so if we confront them directly, they'll throw tantrums and create a strawman argument either about getting laid, talk about how they would never date us with that attitude , complain about how sexist r/short is despite bikerbats failure to believe anything that a short male poster says,or talk about how successful their boyfriend is in the face of heightism (survivorship bias).
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Post by coolerguy on Jul 26, 2018 0:10:19 GMT
It’s probably true that the same white knights that jump in to save women from criticism, are the same men benefiting from women’s oppression. It’s really unbelievable how this whole thing is set up for short men.
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Post by anthony on Jul 26, 2018 0:39:16 GMT
It is as I figured out before. A short, white, straight man is at the worst intersection of traits. You're the oppressor, insofar as you supposedly benefit from white male privilege, but yet, for any part of society when you would have this privilege, you're not entitled, since you're not really a man. So all you really end up with is a life of being damned by everyone, no matter what you do.
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Post by anthony on Jul 26, 2018 3:53:17 GMT
Thank you supportfortheshort as I forgot Christian in my list. I'm not particularly devout, but I was baptized and confirmed Christian too. |
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Post by Heightism Report on Jul 26, 2018 23:17:39 GMT
Another reason women seem to flaunt their heightism more-so than tall men is that woman gain status and receive kudos from the sisterhood for demeaning short men who are considered to be inferior. They revel in the "empowerment" of degrading a group that they feel doesn't deserve the time of day. In the spirit of what HeightismAOS stated, they feel as though they are gaining power as a gender by choosing a subset of a group that is considered the enemy and then socially ostracizing that group.
On the other hand, tall men don't have to flaunt their heightism if they don't want to because many find it much more satisfying to watch everyone else serve them by degrading "lesser males." Women and Garmins love to protect the tall man's social rewards, and tall men just kick back and watch these two groups scurrying around doing everything in their power to ensure that the tall man can continue to bathe in his undeserved rewards. Of course, at any time a tall man feels he needs an ego boost, he can just degrade the nearest short man, and women will collectively swoon as this occurs, but even if the tall man isn't outwardly heightist, you can rest assured that he absolutely loves watching his servants work feverishly to ensure that he is comfortable and is the subject of constant ego-enhancement.
It's all a sad state of affairs really, but this isn't gong to change any time soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 10:17:08 GMT
As a short woman, heightism has negatively impacted my life. I find that my family doesnt take me seriously. And often time they treat me like a child. Whenever I have tried to assert myself as a short woman its like they keep on doing the same behaviour and dont stop. My family just has a hard time treating me like an adult and I find it terrible.
I have experience heightism in the workplace. I find that despite working hard in different companies its usually very hard for me to move up the corporate ladder. I also find that a lot of short men..not all are severely negative towards short women. And Im not sure why that is. But there are alot of short men who take out their frustrations towards short women.
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Post by Heightism Report on Aug 17, 2018 17:10:46 GMT
As a short woman, heightism has negatively impacted my life. I find that my family doesnt take me seriously. And often time they treat me like a child. Whenever I have tried to assert myself as a short woman its like they keep on doing the same behaviour and dont stop. My family just has a hard time treating me like an adult and I find it terrible. I have experience heightism in the workplace. I find that despite working hard in different companies its usually very hard for me to move up the corporate ladder. I also find that a lot of short men..not all are severely negative towards short women. And Im not sure why that is. But there are alot of short men who take out their frustrations towards short women. In a few posts, you seem to be on a rampage against alleged "short men who are heightist against short women" and the last thing we need is yet another stigma against short men so I'm going to have to ask you to either provide evidence, or, at least some context explaining these scenarios. R/short has enough examples of blame shifting onto invisible boogie men and we shun that type of thing here. I also won't lie to you, the fact that you're painting a picture of short men being the worst heightists appears really suspect considering you don't seem to want to call tall men out specifically for their behavior. I'm not denying that there are probably short men who pass the heightism "on down the line" to short women, but it seems as though you believe that short men are a greater part of the issue than tall men, and there is nowhere near any chance of that actually being the case. |
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Post by Heightism Report on Aug 17, 2018 19:16:05 GMT
It’s totally disappointing on how most, if not all women are heightist to the core, and are totally complicit in making your life miserable as a short man. My experiences with heightism are far more common with women on a micro aggressive level. Seems like women go out of the way to point out that your short anytime they see fit. They use name calling, body language cues, or whatever gestures there are to try to inferiortize you for no good reason. To me Its seems really dumb and more immature coming from a woman than a man. Reason is women project themselves as more reserved. The funny part is that many of them shout for equality and being harassed but have no problem harassing short men. Growing up I used to have respect for women and just try to be the best gentleman I could be to them. After experiencing frequent heightism over the years, and then finally reading and educating myself on the topic, I somehow lost a lot of respect for them. I feel like I could never feel sorry for many of them, based on how many of them have no respect for you as a short man. Even though there’s more to heightism than dating, it’s also a common courtesy and respect aspect to it. Women make up 50 percent of the population, if not more. I’m so glad there is a Mgtow. I believe this heightist behavior they exhibit is extremely toxic and does nothing good for relations amoungst the population. I’m starting to believe that heightism is more to blame for the declining birth rate in our country and the gender gap, rather than all the other things they mention such as feminism and “women wanting careers”. I also read an article on how populations of species became extinct when the height gap between the sexes were greater. It could be that heightism is far more harmful than people think it is. You are certainly right about the microaggressive ways that women let us know how they feel about us. I don't see it as any more prevalent than the stuff tall men do to short men, but it is certainly hypocritical when they'll scream for equality out of one side of their face and degrade short men with the other side. I think the way they make excuses for this behavior is they write it off as payback for sexism. The silly thing about this is that tall men had a much larger influence in establishing the current nature of society and they have benefited from the system much more so than short men. So, basically, short men are a scapegoat for women to attack so that they don't have to attack the Prince Charmings that they worship, who are the largest recipients of the current social climate. They also gain social status among other women by putting short men "in their place," thus, they are always rewarded for directing their hatred for males toward a group of males that everyone agrees are deserving of scorn, ridicule, and hatred. Basically, they always find ways to put short men in their place because they know that they're going to get rewarded for it. Your shock at this treatment is certainly understandable because society is indoctrinated to believe all of this "fairer sex," "women all possess elegant beauty" nonsense, thus, some uncomfortable truths have to be swallowed before you can get a peak behind the curtain to see what's really going-on |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 9:38:06 GMT
When I was at r/short I would get lots of negativity towards other short men. Im not saying that all short men do this. Because they were about 30 000 people at r/short and not every single short men was attacking me. But a lot of short men on that subreddit would literally tell me to shut up.. because I don't know what its like to be a short men,, and all I had to do was play the women card. This is what someone actually said to me. And other people would say the same thing. I certainly don't deny that short men have it hard. But I personally cant say that I have had it easier as a short woman. Personally I don't like beinging my gender in this. But Im just telling my experience. As a short woman I have it difficult in dating. No one was interested in me in elementary school or in high school. It really didn't bother me much..until I got in my 20's. I have tried dating and it was a disaster. I would get average to tall men fetishizing about me, saying they want a short girl because they want to pick them up,,and protect them, and they were some men who liked me because they love the idea of a short girl resembling a child..to play out their sick fantasy about dating a child. Also at r/short and other forums, a lot of short men would do their best to bring me down. Every time I would post something about heightism, I would get negative comments or they would do their best to shut me down. They would call me all kinds of names like stupid, dumb B****, and do everything they could to make it seem like I didn't know what I was talking about. I tried to complain to bikerbats but at the end he just turned on me. I have also notice that in a lot of these forums sites there isn't a lot of short women openly expressing about their experiences. And I think its because of the sexism they receive by other short men. So they just decide that its not worth openly expressing themselves and say nothing. I just think its important that both short men and short women are outspoken about their experience. Whehter we want to admit it or not both our gender and height does play a role on how we are treated in this society.
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