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Post by luro2020 on Nov 30, 2017 1:46:58 GMT
I've been looking at the youtube comments on heightist videos and videos related to height, and holy shit there has to be atleast 100 short men commenting under each video atleast that understand heightism perfectly, like the coach corey wayne little man syndrome video. I understand they are afraid to speak out, but I'm not buying it since they aren't afraid to comment on youtube, maybe it's because the comments are old or something, but there has to be a bigger reason than shame as to why they won't join us, could be that we're the only forum in existence.
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Post by valorzeal33 on Dec 1, 2017 20:54:11 GMT
I think the reason why is because this forum has a very difficult name to remember. There are so many sites that a lot of us are forced to remember because we’re kinda lazy to write them down. This forum has heightismhub.freeforms.net, that is a long, complicated name, but if it was condensed into something shorter, like, really short, I’m sure we’d have more new posters coming in? Like Facebook, eBay, Youtube, etc.
Thing is, I see a lot of view counts on this site’s posts. Makes me wonder.
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Post by luro2020 on Dec 1, 2017 21:15:26 GMT
I see that too. The view count makes me check to see if any of our old members are returning but it ends up being lurker views. I agree the name is kind of long, but if people can't even bother to type in 2 words, they likely won't understand heightism either. Do you have a personal story/ experience with heightism to post? I noticed you've been online alot.
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Post by valorzeal33 on Dec 10, 2017 17:32:24 GMT
Gotta say I can tell this heightism awareness is on a decline now. It feels like a lot of short guys either commited suicide, went full on garmin mode, or got killed by heightists in the streets somewhere. I mean, geez, this movement doesn’t feel like it’s moving at all.
Ps. I’m the same guy as toughlimbs, I just changed the name cuz it simply gives the wrong idea.
To be honest, I’m one of those who’s just waiting for someone to be the voice for us. Maybe that’s the problem, I think a lot of short guys (me included) are trained to just shut up and let the “big boys” talk.
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Post by Anthony on Jul 19, 2018 0:41:29 GMT
This forum isn't easy to find. I just stumbled upon it yesterday.
I don't think I'll ever end up being the voice for anyone in particular, but I guess I qualify as an educated, successful short man. Career-wise, if nothing else. I'm 5'5", so reaching a point where I make six figures was a struggle. I have outrageous stories related to height discrimination, and once I realized it wasn't just the "minor handicap" in my life I always thought it was, but a huge factor in how most of my life has gone, I started writing. I have entire books full of anecdotes (hundreds of thousands of words) about moments of failure in my life that I always beat myself up over, thinking I'd done something wrong. It took me decades to piece it all together, because I drank the koolaid about how things like height and looks don't matter. But in retrospect, I see it all now for what it is. It's made me feel better in an odd way, because I know now that it wasn't because I didn't work hard enough, didn't learn enough, wasn't confident enough, or any excuses for failure people always throw at me. Quite often, it was pre-determined due to my genetics. I can say that now, honestly, without feeling like I'm making excuses.
So much of what I've been reading here, I find myself nodding in grim agreement, because I've seen it all firsthand. I'm looking forward to digging into almost everything that's been written here. It's almost like therapy to know I'm not alone in this, and not just making things up.
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Post by Heightism Report on Jul 19, 2018 16:27:42 GMT
I have entire books full of anecdotes (hundreds of thousands of words) about moments of failure in my life that I always beat myself up over, thinking I'd done something wrong. It took me decades to piece it all together, because I drank the koolaid about how things like height and looks don't matter. But in retrospect, I see it all now for what it is. It's made me feel better in an odd way, because I know now that it wasn't because I didn't work hard enough, didn't learn enough, wasn't confident enough, or any excuses for failure people always throw at me. Quite often, it was pre-determined due to my genetics. I can say that now, honestly, without feeling like I'm making excuses. First, I'd like to extend a warm welcome to you because based on all of your posts so far, you are the exact type of poster we aspire to have on this forum. I'm looking forward to your input and any stories you wish you share with us. In regard to the quoted portion, I know the exact feeling because there have been many instances in my life where people, institutions, jobs, etc didn't follow through on rewarding me for my efforts, and it always seemed like random chaos kept holding me back. People and entities would either be inexplicably cold to me from the get-go, or, be initially warm by appreciating my abilities, but would then ghost me without explanation. I just always assumed that this was the nature of society, but I noticed that friends of mine with lesser abilities seemed to progress without many of the unexplained obstacles that I would face. I fought through all of the obstacles and had my share of successes, but even those successes were saddled with unspoken obstacles where I had to defend myself against some boogie man whom I could never quite see. At that point, I couldn't quite figure-out what was going-on, but I knew something was a bit off-kilter. I could never figure-out what was going-on until I learned about heightism, and at that point, the mask was taken off and everything made sense. I started sorting through my memories of where I was ignored in certain scenarios, and the way in-person meetings often had a cold undertone after phone conversations and other correspondence went very well. I recalled many times when my ideas were rejected, and then were considered wonderful ideas when colleagues submitted the same ideas a few months down the road. It was baffling, frustrating, and emotionally-taxing seeing these same scenarios play-out without knowing why they kept happening. For these reasons, I am pleased that you pointed-out how learning why you were treated differently made you "feel better in an odd way." This is the thing that the bootlicking short men who won't discuss heightism don't understand. Once you get past the initial sticker shock of understanding how society views us, you start to obtain a form of enlightenment where you can free yourself of the cognitive dissonance that society has hammered into us by forcing us to ignore the treatment we receive. Furthermore, after we release the delusions we have been programmed to carry around, we can create better strategies to deal with the snide dismissals and are better-equipped to identify the warning signs that indicate people are going to disregard our opinions and efforts. Far too many short men never get to experience this level of enlightenment because they are too dedicated to flaunting a facade of being bulletproof as a means to try to disassociate themselves from other short men. These short men are cowards, so the rare short men who aren't afraid to see things for what they truly are need to learn to stick together and communicate the truth. That's what this forum is all about, so I'd like to once again welcome you because you've come to the right place to discuss heightism without any of the nonsensical platitudes that other forums flaunt. |
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Post by Anthony on Jul 19, 2018 19:30:56 GMT
I started sorting through my memories of where I was ignored in certain scenarios, and the way in-person meetings often had a cold undertone after phone conversations and other correspondence went very well. Exactly what I've been doing. Sorting through memories. Figuring it out, and at least knowing how it all works, there are things you can at least try to do differently. For example, a few years ago, I was the senior systems integration developer at my company. We acquired another company, thousands of miles away. I got put in touch (via email, skype, phone conference calls) with the crew over there and put in charge of integrating their systems with ours. It went extremely well. Pretty soon, those guys would contact me constantly to help them find the best solutions to all of their problems. They wouldn't start work on anything unless they confirmed with me first that what they were doing was cool with me. They respected my ideas and opinions to the point where I was consulted about everything they did. They even petitioned senior management to have me transfer over there for a couple months to solve all their existing problems. (That never happened, because I had way too much work to do in my own office.) Then, almost a year later, a couple lead developers from their office finally flew out to visit ours. They met me in person. I talked and acted exactly the same as I ever did on the conference calls. But I saw, right away, a kind of surprise from these guys. In retrospect, it was that they couldn't quite believe that this guy who was so confident and competent, who explained ideas so well, and made everything just work, that they'd been taking direction from all this time, was the shortest, smallest man in the entire company. Everything changed after that. They stopped soliciting my advice on strategic decisions, and just kept me in the loop on what they were doing, because they were supposed to. They were still friendly in the calls, and in other communication, but it was just...different. They started doing things I would have advised against, and making mistakes that led to real issues. From what I heard (I don't work there any more), it got so bad that people started quitting, and they're down to a third of their former size, moved to a smaller office, and lost a huge chunk of their client base. All of this, at least in part, because people found out I was short, and it affected their perception of me, even after a year of working with me every day. I can't figure it was anything else, and the way it all played out was far too exact to be any kind of coincidence. Now, imagine if I'd just "happened" to be sick for those couple of days, instead of meeting those guys. I've figured out that if I'm in a position where I'm managing things, and people are taking direction from me, it's a risk to the whole situation if they meet me in person. It's far safer for me to remain a disembodied voice, for as long as possible. |
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Post by Anthony on Jul 19, 2018 19:32:35 GMT
Sorry, my partial quoting above got garbled a bit. I was trying to quote and respond to part of what Heightism Report said up there.  |
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Post by anthony on Jul 19, 2018 19:35:00 GMT
...and, registered!
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Post by Heightism Report on Jul 23, 2018 17:28:57 GMT
I want to add a few recent stories from my life that mirror the things that anthony has experienced.
Not too long ago, I applied for a sports promotions job with a local sports franchise. It was an extremely-competitive position that there was only one opening for. Out of all the people who applied, my resume was selected, and I was invited to shadow one of the guys who has been working there for a few years. I waited at the designated location for the woman who was in-charge of the that department. So, as she walks out and I introduce myself, I can see an obvious look of restrained terror on her face. So, she turned me over to the guy I was supposed to shadow, and didn't speak one word to me the rest of the evening. She's in charge of the department, which only has about five people in it, and she doesn't participate at-all in onboarding new employees? So, after that night, she sends me access to the spreadsheet that would give me the ability to sign-up for days to work. However, every time I signed-up for a day, she deleted it and gave it to someone else. So, then, I start seeing some other guy's name on the spreadsheet, and since that time, I've been ghosted. What happened is they hired me to fill the position, and used me as a placeholder before hiring someone else. Here's the payoff. I've seen a picture of this year's department, and every guy is several inches taller than this female department manager who is about 5'5-5'6 herself, and this of course includes the guy they hired to replace me before even giving me a chance. Hmmmmm....I guess that's all one, big coincidence.
An even more recent example.
I applied for a journalist position with an up-and-coming media publication. Once again, my resume got selected from the pile that was submitted, and the publisher loved my credentials, my ideas, my writing samples, and the vision I had for what types of content I would generate. She said that she definitely wanted to invite me for a face-to-face interview. I enter the building for the interview, and see two women seated at a table. One immediately gives an awkward forced smile, and the other looked as though someone cooked food for her, and she didn't like the food, but was pretending to like it just to be courteous. The woman with the forced smile was one of the staffers for the publication, and the woman with the bad food look on her face was the publisher. So, we had about a 45 minute interview, which I thought went pretty well. Forced Smile girl and I had similar academic backgrounds, so we "talked shop" about various nuances of our academic discipline, and the publisher and I had similar ideas about the type of content that I should generate. The publisher's husband also came by during the interview, and I stood-up when he extended his hand for a handshake, and saw that he was taken back for a few seconds when I stood-up.
So, anyway, at the end of the interview, the publisher told me to work-on a mock-up schedule of what a work-week for me would look like, thus, I spent the next few days assembling a presentation that would exhibit how a week would transpire as far as assembling story ideas, potential interviewees, interview questions, research sources, ideas about creating a database for local stories, folklore, etc., and of course, actually writing the stories themselves. After having gone through all that effort, she emails me stating that they hired a full-time journalist, but I could still write a weekly column "If I wanted to." The thing is, I don't even think she pays her weekly columnists, and even if she does throw them a few dollars, this was a big-time demotion from the full-time job that I interviewed for.
Want to know the kicker? It has been 7-8 weeks since that interview, and this so-called full-time journalist that they hired instead of me is nowhere to be found. I've checked the stuff they've published since my interview, and they obviously haven't hired anyone. So, yes folks, some people would rather let their business lag than to hire a short man. I could go on-and-on about stuff that has happened in the workplace, during interviews, and everything else to do with the employment sector. Those of us who are hip to what's going-on in the world can see the patterns that continually present themselves, yet, others are in all-out denial and attempt to silence us for not being in denial ourselves. No such luck though because anyone who tunes-in to the nature of heightism will constantly see it manifest day-in and day-out. These situations with potential jobs are instances where you supply tons of energy and effort into potential jobs and end-up having your time wasted, your career hindered, and your life trajectory altered, so those who pretend that heightism is not real are completely oblivious or willfully-ignorant to the realities of the world
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