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Post by luro2020 on Sept 24, 2017 1:30:31 GMT
Here we go again, another pos who denies heightism is even a concept www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/721wsl/what_a_sorry_ass_fucking_sub/. See how he uses an anecdote about his mom dating short guys, the "it could be worse" nonsense platitude, and the "shallow people are not even that common" all in an attempt to discredit heightism, and where on? Reddit r/short, surprise, surprise. Take notes guys, this guy really knows what he's talking about and we've been wrong this whole time. Avoiding "shallow" people and not giving a fuck will totally fix heightism, what a wise man. This should be framed in the hall of fame or something /s. You have to wonder why the good people like GA still post there, it does really seem hopeless with the numbers and all these denialists.
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Post by Heightism Report on Sept 24, 2017 2:32:09 GMT
I just read that before checking here, and I'm glad you posted it because I was thinking about what an insufferable shit the guy who posted that must be. Let's also notice that he's taller than most of the people on the sub, so he doesn't come anywhere nearly close to grasping the entirety of the issue. That dumbass also contradicts himself by saying "no one cares about your height" and then admitting that shallow people exist. Which is it? People just absolutely love to reprimand short men, even other short men, and cowards like that guy are terrified that their illusions about themselves will be shattered if they see the world for what it is. Not giving a fuck, pretending not to give a fuck, and having no fucks to give has not done one thing to help short men. As we all know, this isn't about the level of fucks a short man gives, it's about the exponential amount of fucks society gives about a man's height. We also see through his nonsense because that rant of his, which was littered with pseudo-machismo shows exactly how many fucks he gives about upholding his image. I wish GA would leave that place too, and it seems like he doesn't put as much into posting as he used to, but I guess it's good to have a few sane people in the mix over there. He's always welcome here, just like any other short man who has the ability to articulate the world for what it is. R/short will just continue to let screaming buffoons like that guy shout at them though, which is a sad state of affairs, but that's just where short men are at this point in-time.
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Post by luro2020 on Sept 24, 2017 2:58:32 GMT
All of that was 100 percent correct. It doesn't matter what short men think of their height, it matters that society always has to bring it up/ thinks of it negatively. Also it is to be noticed if shallow people exist, but no one cares about height, than what is he talking about?Shallowness for other reasons. THey are ll great points. I also noticed he was 5'7, and my first thought was "Oh here we go, another barely short guy who tries to speak for guys 5'6 and under. Don't get me wrong, 5'7 is objectively short, but being 3 inches below average is barely noticeable, and he doesn't face nearly as much heightism as men 5'6" and under, and certainly not enough to be an expert on what it's like. It really is one of our biggest qualms, short people reprimanding other short people, they are in some ways harder to deal with than tall people, it's quite a beast when your own allies cower behind closed doors and won't even speak of the issue.
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Post by HeightismAOS on Sept 24, 2017 6:06:49 GMT
Too bad they never talk this much shit to actual heightists.
An obscure forum like /r/short = worth attacking.
Widespread, scientifically proven societal prejudice = not worth discussing.
Same old illogical bullshit. Look at this one guy: "The reason many people discriminate against short people is because most of them have shitty attitudes and dwelll on others' pity."
Once again, heightism is short men's fault. That makes sense. When people I barely knew talked shit about my height, clearly they read my mind and determined I had a bad attitude and was therefore worth discriminating against. I'm sure it works that way with other groups too. When my dad had racial slurs thrown at him, he brought it upon himself. In fact, just by claiming a group born a certain way has a worse personality on average, that's prejudice in itself. This isn't even a chicken or the egg scenario. In order for shorter men to feel bad about height issues, men have to be judged negatively on it first. The prejudice comes first, anything else is a symptom.
These victim blamers are actually worse than generic heightists in certain ways. Humanity has a history of discriminating based solely on how others are born. This is a fact. It has nothing to do with attitude, so when we blame the group being targeted, bigots have no reason to not discriminate. Just treat short men like trash, then claim it was short men's fault for drawing ire. Absolutely disgusting, especially when it's other short men pushing this.
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Post by Heightism Report on Sept 25, 2017 3:22:16 GMT
You're spot-on as always! These pseudo-badasses sure are extremely choosy about who they'll attack. There's an entire world of height bigots for them to tee off on, yet, they choose one obscure corner of Reddit to unleash their so-called badassness.
"When people I barely knew talked shit about my height, clearly they read my mind and determined I had a bad attitude and was therefore worth discriminating against."
This is seriously one of the most mind-boggling logic fucks that these people are hindered by. They have absolutely no perception of how deeply indoctrinated they are to assume the worst about a short man's character, especially when he speaks-out against his own treatment. They believe in this nonsensical hocus pocus where complete strangers can diagnose a short man's character immediately, yet, won't even entertain the idea that short men might just know a thing or two about their own experience. I have personally had countless issues of complete strangers making derogatory comments specifically about my height, attempting to challenge my manhood, and the entire scale of unsolicited vindictive nonsense. As you said, "the prejudice comes first, everything else is just a symptom." None of that judging or ridicule came from complete strangers making a magical diagnosis when I walked in the door, it came strictly from indoctrinated prejudice.
It's not just assholes or "shallow people" who do this either. Well-intentioned people have also been duped into buying this narrative that this type of treatment is "just a joke" or some type of friendly banter, thus, when the short man protests, he's taking things too seriously. Based on Garmins and idiotic blowhards like the OP from that thread, it is impossible to get even well-intentioned people on-page with how often these so-called jokes occur, and how these jokes are actually a way for people to use us as whipping boys for their own gain.
It's truly remarkable the way society has set-up a convenient way to hate us then shut us down by not allowing us to be the experts on our lives. In addition to that, it's even worse that other short men are doing the dirty work for those who truly benefit from heightism. It's perfectly ok for them to believe that everyone is a fortuneteller who can diagnose a short man just by looking at him, yet, our countless anecdotes, studies, and every other form of evidence is easily dismissed like dust in the wind.
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