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Post by luro2020 on Sept 15, 2017 15:08:01 GMT
I have been noticing that it seems like people will care about heightism only if someone is being a blatant jerk, for example this thread where this tall guy posted a heightist title and acted obviously bigoted, the tallers took his friend's side https://www.reddit.com/r/tall/comments/6yo148/when_you_stand_next_to_your_manlet_best_friend/
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Post by luro2020 on Sept 15, 2017 15:11:39 GMT
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Post by HeightismAOS on Sept 15, 2017 18:37:56 GMT
I'm always shocked even when people defend short men who are blatantly insulted, let alone when it's more subtle.
Either way, this is how many people view discrimination. A person is either blatantly targeted like in a cartoon where the villain chases after them, or the discrimination is simply no big deal.
This whole thing also comes into play when society labels short men with complexes or syndromes. The average person will readily admit they don't view a 5'0 man the same way as a 6'0 man, yet the moment a short man displays an ounce of insecurity, sadness, or anger, everyone jumps down his throat in a way they would never do for example, to a woman who's depressed about her body image. Many people will readily admit to being biased about height, yet they also act like it's weird for any short man to have an adverse reaction to it.
What I think is that everyone likes to virtue signal and come defend "the little guy" when it's an obvious display of prejudice, but at the end of the day they expect short men to not rock the boat unless he's targeted in a severe way. A lot of heightism is more subtle than that blatant troll thread, and it builds up over time. People often ignore this.
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Post by luro2020 on Sept 15, 2017 19:06:39 GMT
Exactly, it is either all or nothing, but that's exactly what i was saying, it's ok for them to react, but as soon as the victim, the short man reacts, they jump on him and start the labeling. And i understand it is more subtle, but that point needed to be adressed, that people will defend short men until they themselves speak up about it, then the pack turns, unless the reason is very severe then no sympathy.
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Post by Heightism Report on Sept 16, 2017 17:26:52 GMT
Usually, when a short man is blatantly insulted, it's passed-off as "just a joke." It doesn't matter if the person doing the insulting is bring height up in irrelevant fashion in-order to either shut the short man down or to enhance his own social standing, it will still be classified as "just a joke" 99% of the time. The short man is supposed to be in on "the joke," thus, he'd better not protest in the most minor way or he will receive an onslaught of scolding for "taking things too seriously" and he will be called insecure. This happens far more than a short man being defended even when he is blatantly insulted. You see, people are taught that we are the world's punchlines, and so since everyone is just laughing-it-up at us constantly, it is easy to dismiss actual discriminatory comments as "just jokes." These jokes are far from light-hearted though because they usually serve to reinforce some tall man's ego. People don't care about the context of these jokes or the fact that bringing-up a short guy's height is a way to shut him up, so they protect women and talls right to laugh at the short men without one bit of regard for how the short man is being treated.
Luro, you are most definitely right about how they look at the victim reacting. Even in the rare occurrence where someone will defend short men, they will only do so up to a point, and they still want to drive the narrative and control the way the narrative spoken, thus, a short man won't be granted any liberties to voice his opinion. They, as the status-quo group get to decide when and how all of the beliefs about us are carried-out, and they also get to frame the conversation even in the rare occurrence when short men are being defended.
An example of this is if people speak-out against the hateful tweets I Retweet. They'll say something like
"Those people are horrible for judging people for things they can't control"
but their next sentence will usually be something like
"But those people are just asses, so short men who let people like that bother them are just insecure."
So, they'll admit that the comments are hateful, but will set-up a way to stigmatize short men who speak against such comments. We're not allowed any type of a voice about our height. They speak against the hateful creatures who post heightist tweets, but just enough so that they can feel like decent human beings themselves, thus, they still don't want to hear the short man's opinion. People who defend short men only do so enough to where they can feel like they aren't like the hateful folks. It's all about them, and never about us.
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