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Post by HeightismAOS on Aug 6, 2017 21:45:12 GMT
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Post by toughlimbs on Aug 7, 2017 2:04:38 GMT
What's wrong with his post? He's fit and takes care of himself. Nothing tough about that. A lot of people criticize him for being short. Why don't you support him for trying to be the best he can be?
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Post by HeightismAOS on Aug 7, 2017 2:21:53 GMT
What's wrong with his post? He's fit and takes care of himself. Nothing tough about that. A lot of people criticize him for being short. Why don't you support him for trying to be the best he can be? I hope you realize he's the kind of guy who would shut this forum down if he could. His message is basically: don't "whine" about height issues, go lift little dumbbells instead. Had he just posted pics of himself and said "I love working out," I would of course leave him alone. Instead he's saying, "since height isn't controllable, just drop the issue," failing to mention how heightism is the main reason in the first place for short men to be troubled, not a lack of working out or buying shirts too big or whatever else. Never mind how actual posts about heightism never get that many upvotes over there. This whole thing is just the usual "hide in your self-improvement bubble and never rock the boat" routine. I guarantee I lift heavier than him, so this ain't about working out in itself, it's the fact that /r/short is constantly flooded with these "don't be a bitch, go lift, no excuses" posts. Edit: Also, any time a short guy says lines like "being short sucks" or "if you can't grow upwards grow outwards," I don't believe he's some confident guy who loves himself. He's bought into the "short=bad" mentality so he's trying to hide it by working out. These positive and confident short guys would drink their own piss if it made them grow taller. I've been in this game for so long I can sniff them out every time. Every "positive" thing he listed is just him rationalizing his current predicament. If this guy was actually useful, he would've used his entire word count to call out heightism, not "short motherfuckers."
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Post by Heightism Report on Aug 7, 2017 3:03:18 GMT
What's wrong with his post? He's fit and takes care of himself. Nothing tough about that. A lot of people criticize him for being short. Why don't you support him for trying to be the best he can be? Everything HeightismAOS said is 100% correct. If you read the post, he actually admits to suffering from heightism, then, begs everyone to go lift weights instead of confronting the heightists. Any short guy who uses imbecilic catch phrases like "If you can't grow upward, grow outward" or any other nonsensical cliche definitely has some Garmin in him. Just like HeightismAOS said, this type of tool would shut this forum down if he could. He doesn't want to discuss heightism, he wants to soothe his insecurity by painting himself as an inspiration to short men. If he's such a hardass, he wouldn't be quivering in his Under Armor gear about the notion of challenging the status-quo. If you stay around heightism dialogue for any amount of time, you'll see how many times lifting weights hijacks the conversation, and this loser is just another example of a short guy continuing an unproductive narrative that has been transpiring for decades. Short people have to be the only group who focus almost 100% on policing the rest of their group instead of the people who discriminate against them. And look at this winner of a comment "Bigger people try to intimidate me physically, but if it comes to it, they ain't bigger than me when I get them off their feet, and a lot of the time they ain't stronger than me, ground game wins." This sounds like a load of bullshit. It sounds like he's some wannabe-tough asshole who watches too much MMA. "Ground game wins." Notice how he didn't mention having any MMA training, and God knows that he would've mentioned it if he even took an introductory class. Is he going to hire a referee to walk around with him in-case he needs to tap out? I can see right through these simpletons. In essence, this fool is looking at this as an individualistic issue instead of looking at the real issue, which is the fact short men are society's designated whipping boys. Notice how he contradicts himself by painting working-out to be a cure-all for heightism, yet, he also still gets challenged by tallers. So, basically, he's either lying about shit, or is too delusional to see that the events of his life are contradictory to the little tough guy persona he is trying to impress the sad sacks of r/short with. This guy is a prime example of someone who cowers in his boots about the notion of challenging the status-quo, and wants to try to soothe his deflated ego by flaunting his tough guy persona(even though he is not physically-intimidating in the least) to a bunch of sad sacks who just want to grovel at women's feet and don't have the life experience to see the world for what it is.
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Post by HeightismAOS on Aug 7, 2017 3:32:10 GMT
Yeah, I like how that guy was literally talking about MMA shit like "ground game," yet toughlimbs is questioning why I labeled the dude as a wannabe tough guy. He ain't beating up jackshit, and even if he was some bigger framed short man with years of combat and powerlifting experience, if he doesn't confront heightism, then it's all moot to me. Just another short guy who doesn't rock the boat in the grand scheme. Why do these guys always type so much to their fellow short men, but never say a single word directed towards heightists? Yet still their unoriginal posts keep getting upvoted.
Again, I train too, for years to the point where I'm bigger/stronger than most men in general let alone these guys from/r/short, but I don't use it to hide in my own little positivity corner. I don't talk shit to men who discuss how being short negatively affects them. These guys may impress the garmins and casanovas from /r/short, and of course they're approved by tall people and women who wished we all hid in a gym, but I'm not impressed. These little tough guys are tryhard phonies.
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Post by Heightism Report on Aug 7, 2017 3:39:33 GMT
Another thing I want to say about delusion-ites such as the OP of that thread is that it might sound like a noble thing for them to make these types of posts, but think about who they're catering to. They're catering to sad sacks who hate themselves for being short, not people who don't want to take BS from heightists. So, what ends-up happening with anyone who stands to be inspired by this mediocrity, is at best, they'll end-up working-out themselves and will become just like OP when they feel like they've made "gains." Not ONE person who has ever competently fought heightism got their start by listening to wannabe fitness gurus who double as little tough guys. This is why we're not concerned with defeated short guys. They are the ones who stand in our way and every time we give them a dose of reality, they start kicking and screaming. Working-out gave OP just enough of an ego boost to diminish some of the self-imposed self-hatred he harbored, so he's equating this with achieving equality in the world. He's not perceptive enough to comprehend how much greater his life would be if he received the amount of prestige and respect as someone several inches taller. He doesn't have the perspective to understand that he's still a punchline to the world, and he is caught-up in his own emotions and the moderate ego boost that he received from working-out. Notice how he didn't mention any other types of life successes that he experienced for working-out, he only mentions imaginary fights that he thinks he can win, and a bunch of pseudo-tough talk for the simpletons of r/short.
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Post by Heightism Report on Aug 7, 2017 3:56:06 GMT
Yeah, I like how that guy was literally talking about MMA shit like "ground game," yet toughlimbs is questioning why I labeled the dude as a wannabe tough guy. He ain't beating up jackshit, and even if he was some bigger framed short man with years of combat and powerlifting experience, if he doesn't confront heightism, then it's all moot to me. Just another short guy who doesn't rock the boat in the grand scheme. Why do these guys always type so much to their fellow short men, but never say a single word directed towards heightists? Yet still their unoriginal posts keep getting upvoted.
Again, I train too, for years to the point where I'm bigger/stronger than most men in general let alone these guys from/r/short, but I don't use it to hide in my own little positivity corner. I don't talk shit to men who discuss how being short negatively affects them. These guys may impress the garmins and casanovas from /r/short, and of course they're approved by tall people and women who wished we all hid in a gym, but I'm not impressed. These little tough guys are tryhard phonies. The bolded portions are what make them so transparent. Notice how all of the "solve heightism with the gym" gurus will never be 50/50 where they will recommend working-out 50% and talk about fighting heightism 50%. That says just about everything. They want to stay secluded 100% in a pseudo-positivity bubble and are terrified of the notion of stepping outside of this bubble. Just like you said, they're supposed badasses, but will not utter one cross word to a heightist, even online. They're carrying-out the heightist lie that "anyone who challenges heightism is a pathetic, unkawnfooodint loser." If they were so tough, they wouldn't walk on eggshells around the notion of challenging heightism, while staying insulated in their comfort zone of contrived machismo. The fact that they're operating on a 100% either/or model shows you that they are intentionally avoiding what they know to be the real issue. They can lift all the weights they want, but nothing is heavier than the load of cognitive dissonance that they carry around.
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Post by HeightismAOS on Aug 7, 2017 10:09:48 GMT
It takes a special level of delusion from them to think what they're doing is tough. Compare the amount of approval they get when they spew their platitudes, to the ganging up on we receive when discussing heightism. Night and day difference.
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Post by luro2020 on Aug 8, 2017 20:51:07 GMT
Exactly!These wannabees get a shit ton of support because they have their own little community of people they have created for an ego boost so that they can more easily criticize us for stepping out of line, these "tough guys" should try having no support and being the group society is opposing, and see how tough their little macho game is!HeightismReport and heightismAOS, you guys are spot on! the short guys who make themselves out to be the all seeing spokespeople and make themselves out to be better than every other short man because they know it's easier to look down on short people who challenge heightism rather than heightists because they don't have an endless loop of support, so they gang up. They will only attack one or the other because they're either too scared to challenge heightists or they are putting short men who don't "man up and deal with it". Also, these posts do come off as noble to society, because they make people think they are giving helpful advice when really they are just trying to shut short men up, and The tough guy badass can't see past the ego boost working out gave him because he has a myriad of support when he gives ass backwards advice that is tricky to deal with because it looks helpful. And also what's very correct , is that nobody ever made progress in the heightism fighting business by catering to tough gym guys, women, putting the blame on short men, or making it about dating, and thats something thank god we actually adress on here is that people focus in all of the places that just make our efforts in vain, and while they do it they'll blame us for everything thats wrong with progress.
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Post by luro2020 on Aug 8, 2017 21:03:15 GMT
specifically tough guys we all see swarming r/short have women, whiteknights, garmins, bikerbat and mike type short scrubs on their side, and they act as if it's so hard to be confident when every little belief they have is approved because they are dancing their little orderly routine against short men that they know will speak out, when you form a mass group around short men of course it's not hard to succeed in silencing them, the silence of short men is truly defeaning as it's been said. There is truly cognitive dissonance going on, nothing more nothing less because Like heightismreport said, the fact they are biased towards one side at one time and never go 50/50 shows they damn well know they are the issue, but they have to stick to their chest puffing, short guy blaming catering to their fellow tough guy in a long complain troll post, It's almost like it's a form of concern trolling that goes unnoticed because everyone is doing it, but they are specifically doing it knowing they are not really badasses because true tough guys don't bow under society and specifically dodge standing up for themselves because they are scared of taking off their tough guy painted on mask that keeps them from having to challenge the source and allow them protection from having to challenge heightists, it also makes it much harder because they've already portrayed themselves this way, so heightists want them to stay even more in their place then the short men who challenge them, since they find them even more pathetic then they view people like us.
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Post by luro2020 on Aug 8, 2017 21:11:14 GMT
*Since every short guy posts these types of concern trolling, it's almost like an accepted form of criticizing short men, when others would get banned for concern trolling r/tall, so basically no one has a problem with people voicing what short people could do to change themselves but these heightism denialists will go to great lengths to avoid concern trolling tall people with these bs tough guy speeches that they know the other tough guys that make up 99% of short guys will approve, and it makes it that much easier to keep painting themselves out to be everything their not, concerned about heightism, trying to give helpful advice, tough, etc everything that these majority short guys are lacking to only go to one side or the other on the heightism front, also bragging about their strength to avoid putting focus on the real issues.
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Post by toughlimbs on Aug 10, 2017 18:15:40 GMT
I actually believe short guys can be tough if they want to. I believe they can even leap so high they could touch the basketball rims. It's tough to train to become that talented. Look up Spud Webb if anyone doesn't believe me. A short guy who could dunk.
Many skateboarders of different heights could pull off a 900 degree spin off the halfpipe like a famous tall skateboarder, Tony Hawk, could.
Anything is possible, no matter how big or small you are. That's why his post is a little tricky.
Since I read this post, I realized how annoying it can get if one short guy finds that he can't grow taller, he should grow outwards by packing on more muscles. I even think the same way, except, I prefer to have a sleek, athletic build, like Steve Reeves. Not a fan of the too-wide look. Just want to look good, and at least, feel sexy. Six pack abs and all. That's the look I would want to achieve.
Being tough, on the other hand, is different than just growing strength and looking good. Being tough is someone who goes through shit and still stands on his feet.
I think he's trying to be sexy by being tougher than tall men of whom women find attractive. I would never want to act tough to impress the ladies, that's just stupid, but he's one of those that does. Women find tall men attractive because they look tough, and they look like they could take on anyone. I think that's what a short tough guy is going for. Tall guys ALWAYS love to act tough, especially when they're around shorter men. WWE is the perfect example of this. That's where it's hard for short men to cry out "heightism" because telling someone that the taller guy is being heightist feels the same as tattle-telling a teacher that a bigger kid was bullying him. This is probably why he didn't say anything about heightism.
I think Mike Tyson and Bruce Lee are two examples of tough guys who can take on bigger dudes, and I think too many short guys use that as their "be it, end all".
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