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Post by shortgirl on Jul 4, 2017 11:38:14 GMT
My life has beem completely affected by heightism and racism.
I am a five feet one black female. Its not enough that I have to deal with racism but heightism as well.
Throughout my adult life I have suffered subtle discrimination, covert discrimination, systemic oppression, marginalization and differential treatment all in Canada. I rarely havr good profestional relationships with doctors, employers, mental health workers, and social worker. They just subtly treat me differntly I have experience denial of service in a very sneakinglt way. A few time a couple of these professionals have told me some people are going to move foreard and people like you arent.
I grew up in an abusive home. I saw my sister get emotionally abused. While my brother and I were neglected. I used to suffer from self hatred throufhout my childhood and teenage years for decades. I thoughy it was normal not to eat, take care of myself etc,, as long as i was good to other. As a result of self hatred, cjild neglect i didnt grow as tall as i should.
But when i was in christian elementary school and high school..i never got bullied or judged bevause of the way i look.
As an adult in the real world, my height, my appearancr is an actual barrier to moving forward. I have tried to move forward. I have been fired over 8 times and laid off three..and i am still being mistreated by professionals. Even in those mental gealth services still have their bias towards short people, what is beautiful etc...i always say that people treat others based on how they look i am on this thread hoping to find people suffering with similar experiences.
My hope is that I can connect with people suffering with similar experiences and we can shed a light on heightism, perhaps child abusr, and eating addictions., to the public outside this thread.
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Post by toughlimbs on Jul 5, 2017 17:25:31 GMT
Thank you for posting your experience on heightism. I'm glad you've joined the group to get our voices heard!
Since you're a black woman, it sounds much harder to be in your position in Canada, I think.
Makes me wonder why they would just fire you and lay you off so many times after you get hired. I don't mean to sound rude, but I think they only hired you to feel better about themselves thinking they "helped" a black person, as if black people are somehow disabled just because of their skin color. You can tell me I'm wrong, though. I'm white, and never really had any black friends growing up, so forgive me if I sound racist at all or whatever. I did have one black guy friend in middle school, but that's about it, and I'm 30 now.
Anyway, I'm really glad you joined heightism club! Please inform your black short friends about it if you can.
Oh and I kinda find it interesting that you're a short black woman in here, because I've seen a lot of black women type up nasty posts against short black men in twitter and tumblr. They say things about short black men like they're downright pathetic and deserve to die. It's perplexing.
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Post by shortgirl on Jul 5, 2017 17:36:09 GMT
Thank you very ,uch for your reply. Unfortunately in this world I am treated based on my skin color and my heights. Which I find so superficial to begin with I cant speak for all black people. I dont represent my race. And i cant speak forball sgort people either. I always say its best to see people as individuals and not treat them as a group. And to be quite honest i have seen white women, do the same thing to short white men. Heightism does not discriminate. Its very ptesumtuous that you would think i only associate with short black people. Growing up i just had friends of all races. I really would appreciate that you stop seeing me only as black. My skin color doesnt deteemibe my personality. But just like not all white oeople alike neither are all black people. Im here to gain allies to fight against heughtism.
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Post by toughlimbs on Jul 5, 2017 18:14:13 GMT
I didn't think you ONLY have short black friends, I believe you do have friends of all races, and size, but I just think that since you're someone with darker skin color, it's easier for black people to actually listen to you.
Because of stereotypes, in the media, black people seem to have "brotherly" bond every time they see each other, kinda like how excited I get when I see another deaf person in the same room I am.
It's easier to be heard from another person who has had similar up and downs as you. That's why I think you have much easier way of fitting in with the black community for real quick and spread heightism, then jump back to your normal lifestyle. Damn I sound racist. What I'm saying is I'm doing the same thing with my deaf friends cuz it's easier to spread it around. They probably wouldn't listen to me at all if I were hearing. Know what I mean? If this is an inappropriate response, then I apologize.
About black short men being seen as inferior by some people, I see a lot of black tall men in sports and they are always perceived as being superior. Usain Bolt, football linebackers, basketball players, etc. I think the black community can't help but think taller equals better. Am I right?
Asian people seem to have the same problem with their "genetic makeup" on their intelligence.
Yeah, the white community is just as shitty. Probably even shittier. Assholes in CEO, for example.
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Post by shortgirl on Jul 5, 2017 18:30:24 GMT
To be completely honest..that isnt true. I really believe that you have a lot generalization and orejudice based on what is presented in the media. I think its very dangerous to look to the media about culture and race. I think thay is a big stereotype. I personally dont focus on color, i focus on personality to connect with oeople. When i do talk about heightism i connect with short white womrn on social media. Not everyone yhinks like you. And yes you sound very prejudice. Yes its an honest response but its very inappropriate. No one is inferior. I dont treat people based on what they look like..i suggest you challenge your assumptions and stop generalizing everyone.
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Post by shortgirl on Jul 5, 2017 18:33:42 GMT
It sounds like you have a lot of prejuidice belief about races and gender, which makes you sound ignorant.
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Post by toughlimbs on Jul 5, 2017 22:24:37 GMT
Alright, then I'm prejudiced about your skin color. Let's look past our race and focus on heightism like you said. We need to stick together to fight for the cause. You said you're 5'1" in height. Honestly, for a woman, that's not even short. The most common height in women are between 5'0 ft to 5'7. 5'8" is considered tall for women. What made you think it's your height? My long-time celebrity crush is Elisha Cuthbert, she stands 5'1" tall, and she lives in Canada. Here's the link on average height in Canada. Interesting. www.google.com/amp/globalnews.ca/news/2849450/canadians-dont-stack-up-in-height-quite-like-they-used-to/amp/
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Post by shortgirl on Jul 6, 2017 0:26:53 GMT
I think its my height because my family is above average height, and they have never suffered as much discrimibation as i have. I do think race and gender does come in play..and geographical locations. Anyways i hate bigotry of any kind. And i stand against any form of bigotry...i do velieve shoeter people should be represented in the media. Iso like you said lets fight heightism.
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Post by shortgirl on Jul 6, 2017 0:31:26 GMT
Okay..so i think that posting here is a good idea. And i do think we should try to befriend each other. My name is Nadege.
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Post by fjohnson on Jul 6, 2017 0:41:12 GMT
Shortgirl I am 5'8", and I can tell you many stories of girls rejecting me due to my height. You being 5'1" can date all sorts of men. I am sure you have read all sorts so garbage concerning women's demands concerning a man's height. It would be interesting to change places for one year. I can't say I have been fired from jobs, but I have been passed over concerning promotions, due to my height. Us short guys be bullied a lot, too. Ask me how I know this? I don't know what to tell you. It is my experience that being a short girl, beats being a short man any day.
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Post by shortgirl on Jul 6, 2017 2:17:55 GMT
Hi.
I am really sorry about the discrimination that you have suffered. It sounds very painful. It has not been very easy being a short black girl either. Yout statement about short girls being able to date any type of guy is an overgeneralization. People are individuals and have individual preference. Unfortunately for me i havent had much in the dating department. From my experience, everytime i go on those dating apps very few guys ate interested in a short black girl. My last boyfriend i did have ended up dumping me calling me shory and fat. Prople are individuals. We should have less group thinking and realize we are unique. I have notice a lot of short guys on here overgeberalize people, groups..how can a short guy or girl want to combat heightism..yet do the same things heightist do to us.
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Post by Heightism Report on Jul 6, 2017 2:57:29 GMT
Alright, then I'm prejudiced about your skin color. I don't blame you for not pursuing that line of conversation further. She blew the entire thing entirely out of proportion. If you ask any one of us on this forum to speak on behalf of how short guys feel about any given issue, we don't freak the fuck out and start labeling the person who asked, we respond with a nuanced description of how the different subsets of short men would respond. We'll speak of how the short kids who are just getting a sense that they're treated differently would respond, we'll speak of how the Garmins would make fools of themselves, we'll speak of how the short Casanovas would respond so as to uphold the silly illusions they've created, and we'll explain how the enlightened few short men who pull no punches would respond. All you wanted was to get insight into a group that she belongs to, and she responded in the worst way possible.
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