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Post by coolerguy on Jul 2, 2017 4:39:34 GMT
I believe taller folks who are not heightist, are somewhat as guilty as those who display blatant heightist behavior. The reason being that they know that other tall people victimize short people and turn the other way or don't speak up about it at all. How is a short person supposed to know who is a heightist and who isn't? This is the world of mystery that's left for the short guy in the social atmosphere. It's hard for me to believe that heightism doesn't affect ones personality because your always on the receiving end of judgement. At least guys will still hit on short women, which gives them a sense of inclusiveness in the dating world and other activities. We as short guys get little signs of being attractive or feeling included,even if your a descent looking short guy. Is it safe to assume that everyone 5'8 and up is a heightist? Well it sure feels that way interacting with strangers. Who wants to be victimized randomly at any given time because of their height? So now you must walk with a feeling of defense from a heightist attack all the time. How are you going to feel confident in a group setting when everyone is a suspected heightist? What losers some of these taller people are. I wish some of these taller people realize that not everyone wants to be tall, but just respected equally. I love being short. It feels quite smooth and groovy at times moving a smaller vessel which can still be quite powerful. If taller people are so much better than us, shouldn't you be a role model to righteousness and treat all heights equal? The answer is no, your not better than anyone. Taller people are tainted with privilege on the backs of short men. In my experience, average height guys(5'8/5'9) are just as heightist, if not more than guys 6 feet plus. They tend to point out that they are taller than the guys under 5'6 with rude comments, name calling or violating your zone of space. I guess because 6 footers make them feel short. I'm 5'4 by the way. They say what goes around comes around, and it's quite ridiculous that people don't think to respect one another as if karma doesn't exist.
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Post by luro2020 on Jul 3, 2017 0:21:14 GMT
You're doing exactly what they're doing by blaming average height guys, what good does it do to do that? I know alot of average height guys like the fact that heightism exists, but there are some that are trying to stop it (im one of them) , so please think before you use sweeping generalizations, discriminating and focusing in on people of certain height ranges and making them out to be worse than another gets us nowhere, it's just infighting. Why do you feel the need to get angry at average men when there are plenty of us who aren't like that? Try to look past the confirmation bias you have against average height guys and see that society as a whole is heightist, not just one height range.
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Post by coolerguy on Jul 3, 2017 0:44:34 GMT
Well I'm referring to the average height guys who like the fact that heightism exist. Not all average guys are heightist of course, because they may face discrimination as well. This isn't infighting if I've actually came across average height guys who are heightist. I'm speaking from my own experience and my reality as a short man. I've seen average height guys often disparage me quicker than guys that are 6 feet plus. Mainly I guess is because there may be more average height guys in society than guys that are 6 feet plus. I'm not solely blaming average height guys for heightism, of course it's guys that are above average that are the true heightist, and benefit the most. And I do have respect for the average height guys that aren't like that. I'm sure that the taller guys above average height are true "heightist" but they usually are more subtle, which of course is equally as wrong.
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Post by luro2020 on Jul 3, 2017 0:51:31 GMT
Very fair, it's only the ones who make it a problem who are the problem, and the outliers aren;t what you're referring to, i get it. It just doesn't help anyone when they take their rage out on average guys, and i know alot of tall guys and short guys who do that, but i see that's not your intention, it's just your experience. I wasn't getting mad, I was trying to adress something that happens very often within the heightism fighting community. I see now you aren't trying to disparage average guys, its just people jump to blame them often.
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Post by Heightism Report on Jul 3, 2017 9:38:33 GMT
Here's the definitive statement on who is the most heightist and who isn't. EVERYONE is heightist until they learn not to be. No matter what height someone is, it takes de-programming a lifetime of cues, reminders, media portrayals, body languages, and various other indoctrinated mechanisms that society implants so that everyone polices the behavior of short people. Short people failed the implicit bias tests that measured bias against short people just like everyone else did, so it's kind of missing the mark to constantly spin theories on who is the most heightist and who isn't. R/short spends an idiotic amount of time focusing on average height people and having idiotic arguments about which political party is the most heightist. The reason this is idotic is because like I said, EVERYONE, including short people are heightist until they make a conscious effort to deprogram the nonsense they have been taught about how they and other short people are inferior.
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As far as the original question as to whether non-heightist talls who do nothing when they see heightism against short people occur are the worst, I'd say that the worst-of-the-worst are people who are heightist, no matter whether through covert or overt means. So, a tall person who stands passively and says nothing isn't helping us at all, but at least they aren't actively hurting us. However, if you want to discuss what group of people who remain silent is the absolute worst, I would have to say that short people who deny heightism exists, hide in the shadows, don't join these discussions, don't assist other short people who are being degraded and ridiculed, and so on, would be the absolute worst-of-the-worst because they prevent the rest of us from moving forward. At this point in time, The Silence of The Short is much more detrimental to us than the silence of tallers who refuse to help us. We can't have strength in numbers until our fellow short men quit selling us out. When we do have strength in numbers, we will have enough of a collective voice to influence some of these silent tallers to help align with the cause.
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