I’d never date a bloke under 6ft – they’re insecure, rubbish

As far as making proclamations that we'll never help any other causes goes, no one deserves to be hated because of physical characteristics, so it's not wise to dismiss those causes in blanket fashion. Displaying a lack of empathy for others is the same mechanism that drives all other forms of hatred, including heightism, thus, priding ourselves on not caring about others strengthens the same bad mentality that punishes us for being short. We don't live in a vacuum, we live in a world where everyone's actions are part of a Domino Effect, so adding a steady stream of venom to the tsunami of venom that already exists isn't the cure-all solution some seem to think it is. We're not the ones who drove the wedges between us and other groups, but at some point, driving wedges just for the sake of doing so is an act of diminishing rewards. Yes, other groups have absolutely zero concern toward our cause, but loudly renouncing those causes doesn't really offer us a benefit when people already won't listen to us.

Making absolutist statements about how we'll never help others also gives them the perfect excuse for not caring about our problems. It's already too easy for them to derail the conversation with the usual nonsense, and it becomes easier if you gift wrap them a goodie bag of being able to criticize you for being anti-woke, racist, sexist, etc. I'm not saying that anyone who doesn't participate in other causes is any of those things, I'm just saying that giving them an easy-out that has nothing to do with heightism itself is a sure-fire way to ensure that the distractions they create will cause your message to be completely ignored. Taking that stance scares off your audience before they even enter the building. Furthermore, with other groups holding the lion's share of the attention in the social justice realm, it hurts us more than it hurts them when we close-off all possible avenues of conversation. We need to leave the door open in case a few stragglers from those groups ever decide to engage us in a positive manner. Another reason we need to take this tone is we want them to have to work to find ways to disregard us. Let's make them work and build-up some cognitive dissonance instead of lobbing them softballs.

There's also an inconvenient truth that in order to make any progress, we're going to need help from people who aren't short men, and we can't ever receive this help if we force ourselves onto an even more desolate island than the one we're already on. An even sadder reality is that short men as a whole aren't going to join our cause until they have "permission" from people who belong to other groups. This is one of the things we're going to have to understand if we ever want to get past posting on a few fringe message boards. No matter how frustrated we are with other groups, the optics of rejecting everyone who is part of these groups hinders our progress. We need help, and we're not going to get it from fellow short men in this day and age, so while we certainly should offer critiques of other groups for spreading heightism in all its forms, we also shouldn't pigeonhole ourselves as a few scattered extremists who can't be reasoned with. We shouldn't pull any punches, but we also shouldn't preemptively scare off potential allies before they even have a chance to speak to us.

Plus, thinking long-term, if we leave avenues of communication with other groups open, the longer those other groups hypocritically heap vitriol on us in ways that they would never tolerate if done to themselves, the worse they'll look in the eyes of history. If they continue to hypocritically despise us, even though we leave the lines of communication open, we can let the evidence speak for itself when(if) heightism ever gets its chance to be discussed intelligently. If we reject those groups wholesale, we'll look like we were just as much a part of the problem as those other groups were. Since nothing is going to be done to help us in the near future, we need to think long-term.

Basically, we have to compartmentalize our beliefs about things that aren't directly related to heightism. You can't shoehorn other belief systems into heightism discussions because doing so scares people away who don't hold those beliefs. The world is completely polarized these days, thus, taking on the baggage of outside beliefs is a one-way-ticket to being ignored. You guys are going to have to get used to the idea of allying with people who might not share your views of some things outside of the heightism world or we're never going to progress beyond being what we are now.

On the other hand, I totally understand us taking issue with others expecting us to assist them while they continue to outwardly hate us. Why do we have to help them when they won't even give us two seconds to explain our situation without resorting to the same tired stereotypes, snide derision, and utter disdain? At some point, it makes sense for us not to carry the burden of "being better than everyone else" when people can't give us one second to explain our narrative. I'm not saying we should worry too much about engaging those individuals from social justice groups who flippantly despise short men, so I totally relate to this part of the equation, but we don't want to dismiss those groups outright for the benefit of the folks who are short AND belong to those groups.

When new people who are interested in our cause see us drawing definitive lines in the sand with other groups that they belong to or support, we lose the opportunity to gain them as allies. As for this present moment, when we receive zero support from anywhere, it might not seem to matter if we paint ourselves into a corner all by ourselves, but there may come a time when one or two influential short men(who might also belong to other social justice causes) attempt to give our cause some serious consideration, but get scared away by isolationist rhetoric. We need to be prepared for the moment when influential allies appear, even though it looks like it may never occur granted the fact that short men still spit in the face of reality and surrender to a code of silent subservience. Our goal isn't to tiptoe through the tulips in an r/short quest to "win over hearts and minds" of hardcore heightists, our goal is to leave the door open for potential, intelligent allies(some of whom might be from woke groups) who can learn the ropes here and influence other members of their woke group to stop treating short men the exact way they refuse to be treated. We know that the majority of those folks won't grant us any consideration regardless, but we're not trying to recruit the majority, we're trying to recruit the elite few who can help us.

So, yes, those other groups have been absolutely zero help to us, and that fact needs to be documented, but let's not run our potential audience away before they work-up the nerve to participate. Of course, the silence of short men is by far the most substantial reason we can't move forward, but we also need to work to keep our message clear of unnecessary distractions.

We live in a gynocentric world.
The rise of women in media companies is a large part of the reason why short men are vilified so much in media.
Women hate short guys.

I believe in evo-psych. I feel it does a good job of explaining how male-female attraction works.
Women prefer tall guys just the way men prefer women with bigger breasts.

However this shallow “6 feet tall” obsession is cultural.
In a world where women can get tax dollars for raising their bastard kids. In a world where women know thanks to cops that they are secure at all times, they can get away with it.
Men become nothing more than a status object. She wants to impress her friends.

Having a 6 feet tall guy next to her make a huge difference vs 5’ 11” guy to her friends.


Men don’t have any standards. Don’t be obese, be young are the only ones guys have. Men are happy with a girl in their league.

But men having these basic standards is misogyny while these Hitlers who only want TALL guys, that’s just preference.

There is a reason why religions across the world, across time have kept control over female sexuality.
Women are better than men at gaslighting and virtue signaling. They are very shallow.

What we are seeing is the result of a gynocentric world.

When my wife gets pregnant, I’ll either have a son or get an abortion. She will grow up to be one of these “tall guys only” kind of women.


Let tall guys have daughters.