Post by charismatholic on Jun 10, 2020 17:58:48 GMT
Does anyone else find the "short kings" garbage that's circulating around all forms of social media to be completely grating, ridiculous and patronising?
I think it's a very superficial attempt at positivity, one that doesn't address any of the actual issues to do with heightism. It's very easy for people to say that they "support short kings" without any other action to back it up. Such people will say that, but then when they see short people having a "public freakout" or anything like that, then the gloves are off and instantly they will insult the person in question for their height. Not their behaviour or anything like that, but their height, particularly if it's a short man doing it. If it's a tall person having a "public freakout" then it isn't because they have "tall man syndrome", it's because that individual is just a bad individual.
It also comes off to me as being overly saccharine and without substance. What I'd prefer a million times more is for short people's experiences to be listened to, instead of being constantly gaslit and trivialised by being told "it's all in your head" and "people don't care about height." But no, it's easier to just say "short kings" like it's some sort of magical spell that makes all heightism go away and then do nothing else.
You'll never see that sort of ultimatum being put forth when it comes to women's weight. But that's usually what people mean when they say "short king" (more like short jester). You're right about it being patronising. It's like calling a kid a "big boy" then patting him on the head. Might as well say "know your place little man and stop rocking the boat."
Post by supportfortheshort on Jun 12, 2020 22:56:06 GMT
A stupid and childish attempt at avoiding the reality of discrimination based on height - specifically short stature - and even more specifically against short men. Quite frankly, it's an attempt at uplifting a group of people - which I don't have anything against by the way albeit this sort of thing is an idiotic attempt - but does nothing about the more and more common attacks on short men. It avoids confrontation. These kids, and that's what they are by and large, are off in la-la land, fantasizing an imaginary world where they rule. The don't rule. They're not even treated as equals in the real world, let alone 'rule'. As a matter of fact, we all know that short men are not only 2nd class citizens, but are well on their way to becoming 3rd class citizens, as heightism gets more and more overt. It's like a boxer getting the crap beat out of him in every round, and when he goes to his corner between rounds, he goes off into a fantasy world where believes he's doing the exact opposite. And if someone were to say to him that, "heh buddy, you're getting the tar beaten out of you, you better start fighting back", he attacks that someone, because he doesn't want to face the real situation. We'll be seeing plenty more of the reddit.com/r/short variety of these idiots in the future.
Post by Heightism Report on Jun 14, 2020 3:44:16 GMT
I agree with pretty-much everything that has been said here, although I will admit that it's surprising to see short men mentioned in a way that isn't negative, even though in this case, it's just a silly pseudo-positive social media meme. It's not an extremely popular meme though so we can't even begin to piece together a theory about this being some type of narrative shift in the way short men are being viewed.
HeightismAOS also pinpointed another nuance about what makes a short man a "king," which is obedience to what society tells him to do. Show me the memes that say short men who challenge heightism are kings and that might be a sign of making some progress. No matter how you challenge heightism, people are going to assume you're Bagel Guy. It doesn't matter how diplomatic, calm, and backed by science your efforts are, you'll never be viewed as a king. Kings aren't told how to act by society and treated like pariahs for defending themselves, therefore, short men are far from kings in the eyes of society. We know the only role short men are supposed to play within the kingdom, and that role is that of the court jester. When people allow us to defend ourselves and discuss our issues without shifting the blame back onto us, and most importantly, allow us to take the leadership role in deciding how to address heightism, at that point, they can refer to us as kings being that we will have control of our own narrative.
I'm not even quite sure what prompted the short kings trope, but I'm guessing a few people have a short man in their lives who they know gets mistreated, thus, they push this meme as a "favor" to that particular short guy, or, maybe women who date short men post these memes as a way to cope with the judgment they receive for dating a man that is treated as "lesser" by society. Almost none of the people who push the meme have any concern whatsoever about heightism as a systemic issue, nor, do any of them care about actually becoming allies to help us challenge heightism directly. Least of all, absolutely none of them care about doing anything to attack the lifelong deluge of privilege that tall men receive. About all we can expect from society at this point is this "short kings" nonsense in a one-off fashion. Like I said, it's better than the usual hatred, but at its core, it's just a vapid way of making us feel like they're throwing us some crumbs without actually doing anything to change the way short men are treated, viewed, and despised.
The last few times, that shit got hundreds of upvotes. The soys must have been busy babysitting while their wives were out with the bull.
It appears to be a positive note in an otherwise depressing melody. It isn't much. Now what some of these folks should do is begin posting messages over here. I fear we may have to wait a long time for that though.
OP's defense to some of the comments was:
"I reposted it because I was disappointed to see a lot of negativity and negative circlejerks in the past couple threads and tjought* we could use some short king positivity. What happened to this sub in the last couple months? People here used to love celebrating short kings and this place was full of positive stories about short guys getting promotions and dates."
*misspelling is OP's
People like this just don't seem to get it. They're brainwashed to an incredible level by what they hear from external sources, most of which like to lambaste the short man for some alleged "attitude" that he has. But this kid (probably under 25) just wants to go his merry way, whistling a happy tune while he's being walked all over by others. We're supposed to celebrate morons like Danny Devito and others who couldn't give two cares in hell for anyone but themselves, and who would NEVER even attempt to make discrimination against short people/men an issue in any way despite their financial resources, lest they be laughed at by someone.
Post by exposedtoheightism66 on Jul 3, 2020 22:30:49 GMT
Yea, it's very annoying, it's used as a form of distraction for all of the times that those people are heightism and to encourage short men that being short isn't a negative, which couldn't be true because then they would not need to use a positive label to try to "cheer" up short men. Sometimes it sort of addressed how short men are viewed but it mostly doesn't address heightism and gives an easy way for people to put up a positive facade, and give examples like that one short guy they know to focus on solutions that don't get to the causes of heightism.
Since it has so much traction in the topic of short male issues, it's an easy way non short people and ignorant short men try to make short men who are at least semi aware feel better, sometimes gaslight them like you said and escapism so they can pretend they are helpful when they are just giving the most simplistic, basic advice without looking at heightism. Silencing at it's finest.