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Post by Heightism Report on Feb 15, 2020 2:45:48 GMT
www.thedailybeast.com/short-people-are-pissed-at-trump-for-his-bloomberg-height-attacksOf course, there had to be an obligatory pun because the author so cleverly had to add the heading "small ball." People absolutely can not discuss heightism without saying at-least one goofy joke. This tells you just what we're up against. The article also had some decent parts. Tanya made good remarks, and even Brock from Modest Man didn't say anything unproductive. Tanya was definitely right about how Trump's remarks will not unite short people. Absolutely nothing unites short people other than the will to be Garmins who try to end heightism discussion. It's also good that Tanya brought-up stereotypes about short men and how short people are not viewed as potential leaders. Then, for no reason whatsoever, the author had to bring-up the topic of r/shortcels and dismissed the entire content of the sub as "misogynist." Here we go again with lumping heightism discussion in with misogyny. When Wendy Williams made heightist remarks about Ariana Grande, I didn't hear anyone try to relate short women with some other form of bigotry. It's extremely telling that an author who writes an article that is about Trump's big mouth finds the need to somehow equate the victims of Trump's statements with misogyny. There are ample other places(including Heightism Hub and the pages run by our posters) that he could've gotten content that wasn't loaded with the type of stuff that is discussed at r/shortcels, but he deviated from the whole topic he was writing about in-order to virtue signal by showing he is anti-misogyny, and left the audience believing that anti-heightism discussion is somehow linked with misogyny. I guess the author couldn't find it within himself to discuss anything that affects short men without somehow giving the audience an "out" by bringing-up shortcels so that they could immediately dismiss any concerns short men have. There was good and bad with this article, and it was better than most articles, but the bad portions were unnecessarily shoehorned in, which lessened the positive impact. Edit: I forgot to mention the title of the article, which was "Short people are pissed Short People Are Pissed at Trump for His Bloomberg Height Attacks." There are two things wrong with this title. 1) It makes it sound like short people are pissed-off at this as a whole. That's far from the case. Short people are far too docile to be pissed-off at these types of comments. I wish more short people were pissed at stuff like this. If they were, we might finally be able to make some progress, but the truth remains that most short people will either self-deprecate, defend "everyone's right to have an opinion," ignore the comments, or prance for tallers so as to show they aren't bothered by these types of comments. Not nearly enough short people will actually be pissed enough to do anything about it or challenge the type of people who make these types of comments. 2) Has anyone ever heard any supportive comments about short people(especially short men) being pissed off? Absolutely not. The only type of feedback that will come as the result of short men being pissed off for disparaging remarks is about how those pissed-off short men prove Napoleon Complex exists, about how short men are angry at their shortness, they're bitter pathetic losers, and so on. I'd be willing to bet that the author found the idea of theoretical short men being pissed-off at Trump's comments amusing, which is why he chose this particular title. Once again, If he wanted to handle this topic with complete seriousness, why did he go digging on a shortcels forum so as to equate short men with misogyny?
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Post by HeightismAOS on Feb 15, 2020 3:13:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 3:27:49 GMT
www.thedailybeast.com/short-people-are-pissed-at-trump-for-his-bloomberg-height-attacksOf course, there had to be an obligatory pun because the author so cleverly had to add the heading "small ball." People absolutely can not discuss heightism without saying at-least one goofy joke. This tells you just what we're up against. The article also had some decent parts. Tanya made good remarks, and even Brock from Modest Man didn't say anything unproductive. Tanya was definitely right about how Trump's remarks will not unite short people. Absolutely nothing unites short people other than the will to be Garmins who try to end heightism discussion. It's also good that Tanya brought-up stereotypes about short men and how short people are not viewed as potential leaders. Then, for no reason whatsoever, the author had to bring-up the topic of r/shortcels and dismissed the entire content of the sub as "misogynist." Here we go again with lumping heightism discussion in with misogyny. When Wendy Williams made heightist remarks about Ariana Grande, I didn't hear anyone try to relate short women with some other form of bigotry. It's extremely telling that an author who writes an article that is about Trump's big mouth finds the need to somehow equate the victim's of Trump's statements with misogyny. There are ample other places(including Heightism Hub and the pages run by our posters) that he could've gotten content that wasn't loaded with the type of stuff that is discussed at r/shortcels, but he deviated from the whole topic he was writing about in-order to virtue signal by showing he is anti-misogyny, and left the audience believing that anti-heightism discussion is somehow linked with misogyny. I guess the author couldn't find it within himself to discuss anything that affects short men without somehow giving the audience an "out" by bringing-up shortcels so that they could immediately dismiss any concerns short men have. There was good and bad with this article, and it was better than most articles, but the bad portions were unnecessarily shoehorned in, which lessened the positive impact. Edit: I forgot to mention the title of the article, which was "Short people are pissed Short People Are Pissed at Trump for His Bloomberg Height Attacks." There are two things wrong with this title. 1) It makes it sound like short people are pissed-off at this as a whole. That's far from the case. Short people are far too docile to be pissed-off at these types of comments. I wish more short people were pissed at stuff like this. If they were, we might finally be able to make some progress, but the truth remains that most short people will either self-deprecate, defend "everyone's right to have an opinion," ignore the comments, or prance for tallers so as to show they aren't bothered by these types of comments. Not nearly enough short people will actually be pissed enough to do anything about it or challenge the type of people who make these types of comments. 2) Has anyone ever heard any supportive comments about short people(especially short men) being pissed off? Absolutely not. The only type of feedback that will come as the result of short men being pissed off for disparaging remarks is about how those pissed-off short men prove Napoleon Complex exists, about how short men are angry at their shortness, they're bitter pathetic losers, and so on. I'd be willing to bet that the author found the idea of theoretical short men being pissed-off at Trump's comments amusing, which is why he chose this particular title. Once again, If he wanted to handle this topic with complete seriousness, why did he go digging on a shortcels forum so as to equate short men with misogyny? I saw that article and was going to post it, so I’m glad someone else found and posted first. It’s great to see big advocates of our narrative wrapped into one thread, but that damn stupid garmin pun at the end left a sour taste in my mouth and probably everyone else’s. It’s good that people are seeing the hypocrisy in that Ariana grande incident, but everytime an article like this is published, it seems like the author doesn’t care and is shrugging heightism off to some degree, even trying to prove stereotypes by doing the most outlandish of jumps like you said with shortcels. You can’t literally go to the one place where there will be definitive hatred of women (who can blame the more rational ones really at this point) and apply it to all short men. She’s right, if anything the fear of being grouped will divide short men even more due to self preservation, ie if Bloombergs height is such a big deal mine would be as well.This was a classic example of one or few short mens behavior applying for all short men, and this whole Bloomberg thing has been horrible. I was surprised to see all the big names in the article, but I can’t personally get past how the author had the attitude of “they don’t deserve the discrimination as long as they act a certain way”, not at the preposterousness.
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Post by Heightism Report on Feb 15, 2020 4:01:04 GMT
www.thedailybeast.com/short-people-are-pissed-at-trump-for-his-bloomberg-height-attacksOf course, there had to be an obligatory pun because the author so cleverly had to add the heading "small ball." People absolutely can not discuss heightism without saying at-least one goofy joke. This tells you just what we're up against. The article also had some decent parts. Tanya made good remarks, and even Brock from Modest Man didn't say anything unproductive. Tanya was definitely right about how Trump's remarks will not unite short people. Absolutely nothing unites short people other than the will to be Garmins who try to end heightism discussion. It's also good that Tanya brought-up stereotypes about short men and how short people are not viewed as potential leaders. Then, for no reason whatsoever, the author had to bring-up the topic of r/shortcels and dismissed the entire content of the sub as "misogynist." Here we go again with lumping heightism discussion in with misogyny. When Wendy Williams made heightist remarks about Ariana Grande, I didn't hear anyone try to relate short women with some other form of bigotry. It's extremely telling that an author who writes an article that is about Trump's big mouth finds the need to somehow equate the victim's of Trump's statements with misogyny. There are ample other places(including Heightism Hub and the pages run by our posters) that he could've gotten content that wasn't loaded with the type of stuff that is discussed at r/shortcels, but he deviated from the whole topic he was writing about in-order to virtue signal by showing he is anti-misogyny, and left the audience believing that anti-heightism discussion is somehow linked with misogyny. I guess the author couldn't find it within himself to discuss anything that affects short men without somehow giving the audience an "out" by bringing-up shortcels so that they could immediately dismiss any concerns short men have. There was good and bad with this article, and it was better than most articles, but the bad portions were unnecessarily shoehorned in, which lessened the positive impact. Edit: I forgot to mention the title of the article, which was "Short people are pissed Short People Are Pissed at Trump for His Bloomberg Height Attacks." There are two things wrong with this title. 1) It makes it sound like short people are pissed-off at this as a whole. That's far from the case. Short people are far too docile to be pissed-off at these types of comments. I wish more short people were pissed at stuff like this. If they were, we might finally be able to make some progress, but the truth remains that most short people will either self-deprecate, defend "everyone's right to have an opinion," ignore the comments, or prance for tallers so as to show they aren't bothered by these types of comments. Not nearly enough short people will actually be pissed enough to do anything about it or challenge the type of people who make these types of comments. 2) Has anyone ever heard any supportive comments about short people(especially short men) being pissed off? Absolutely not. The only type of feedback that will come as the result of short men being pissed off for disparaging remarks is about how those pissed-off short men prove Napoleon Complex exists, about how short men are angry at their shortness, they're bitter pathetic losers, and so on. I'd be willing to bet that the author found the idea of theoretical short men being pissed-off at Trump's comments amusing, which is why he chose this particular title. Once again, If he wanted to handle this topic with complete seriousness, why did he go digging on a shortcels forum so as to equate short men with misogyny? I saw that article and was going to post it, so I’m glad someone else found and posted first. It’s great to see big advocates of our narrative wrapped into one thread, but that damn stupid garmin pun at the end left a sour taste in my mouth and probably everyone else’s. It’s good that people are seeing the hypocrisy in that Ariana grande incident, but everytime an article like this is published, it seems like the author doesn’t care and is shrugging heightism off to some degree, even trying to prove stereotypes by doing the most outlandish of jumps like you said with shortcels. You can’t literally go to the one place where there will be definitive hatred of women (who can blame the more rational ones really at this point) and apply it to all short men. She’s right, if anything the fear of being grouped will divide short men even more due to self preservation, ie if Bloombergs height is such a big deal mine would be as well.This was a classic example of one or few short mens behavior applying for all short men, and this whole Bloomberg thing has been horrible. I was surprised to see all the big names in the article, but I can’t personally get past how the author had the attitude of “they don’t deserve the discrimination as long as they act a certain way”, not at the preposterousness. You're absolutely right that most short men go into preservation/damage control mode when heightism gains public attention. Guys like Bikerbats and Yamoth sculpt their whole personalities around these avoidance tactics. I also need to comment on the way the article ended, which was Modest Man criticizing Bloomberg's clothes. What kind of foolery was that? Can you imagine if Trump said something sexist about a woman politician and someone wrote an article that concluded with how their dress makes their ass look fat or something similar? Why did the author even seek a fashion "expert" in the first place? This is a constant issue with how heightism against short men is always covered in the media. They never have an entire panel of people who can discuss the issue intelligently; They always have comedians, rappers, life coaches, fashion experts, or other such people who have no reason to be invited other than to trivialize the conversation and keep it "light hearted." What is light hearted about the President of the United States degrading people were unchangeable physical characteristics? Yet, heightism is an issue where even if they seek someone who can discuss the issue(Tanya) they'll also invite fashion consultants, and dredge-up obscure comments from shortcels. There are ample people they could've sought for this interview, including people who did studies on heightism, but the author didn't want to shed light on the indignities that short men face; He wanted to speak of this story in a way where it would still be "all in good fun."
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