It seems to me reddit only chooses people that support certain "party lines", and people like this "bikerbats" is a charter member of a certain "party line". Short people, and short men in particular, must never be motivated enough to do anything about heightism, and a good way to keep them in their place is to disparage those who support the notion that heightism exists. Of course it exists, there's no doubt about it. The first thing that the people do against short men who rebel against their 2nd Class citizenship status is to just dismiss the whole notion of heightism. On r/short the topic has been brought up too many times, so it can't just be "dismissed". They have to give some sort of "argument" against the belief that it does exist. HeightismAOS gives some great examples of the tactics people use to derail short men complaining of heightism on his blog -
People like this "bikerbats" use the "relative privation" argument a lot too --
"It's not that I disagree with the idea behind heightism, but the word itself is intentionally evocative of racism, anti-semitism, and other -isms with dark histories. Men, women and children were tortured and killed in the name of racism, and to this day die in racially motivated attacks. The same thing can be said about anti-semitism with shootings in your lifetime. I just don't see the height thing rising to that level or even close to it, and I think it's wrong on many levels to try to conflate the three under one big umbrella."
It's very easy to argue against this crap. First of all, I'm not sure I've seen anyone ""conflate" the three under one big umbrella". I've never seen a short person put racism, anti-semitism and heightism into one bag so-to-speak. This character makes up his own straw-man arguments. We have to ask ourselves too - how much do we have to suffer to have a legitimate grievance? According to this bikerbats moron we have to be tortured and killed in height-motivated attacks. Well, there ARE height-motivated attacks. Short people are more common attackees on the street because they present a good target for attackers because of their small size. I didn't see any rebuttals to biker-boy's argument along these lines by the young geniuses of r/short. Another common rebuttal is the slavery so-called "argument". They'll ask you if you were ever a slave. Well, no one is a Slave in this country. No one has been a slave in this country in this century. No one was a slave in the last century, and no one was a slave for 37 years of the previous century. So this argument has no substance whatsoever. They also sometimes use the "voting argument". They'll say something like, "Were short people ever denied the right to vote?", alluding to women once being denied the right to vote. Once again, a good reply is, "Any adult can vote in this country. No one is denied the right to vote. And no one has been denied that right for about 100 years. You're hallucinating." When women, Gays, Lesbians, Hispanics, Asians etc. form groups and organizations, no one throws these pathetic argument at them to keep them in their place. No one. These arguments are reserved for a special group that currently has no cohesion, no self-identity, and no power. When one is dealing with a group like this, one can use any flawed logic and get away with it, especially when one is dealing with the garden variety short-statured cucked, cowardly and dumbed-down males of the type posting on r/short. Then he states:
"I don't deny that there is a social bias towards tall people, or that taller people are generally considered better looking with everything else being equal."
Geoffrey Arnold gives some good examples in one of his comments; examples that should quiet the doubters, but usually doesn't, like the idiot named "yamoth", who by the way, is one of the most pathetic posters on that fated sub-reddit. I sometimes doubt whether that guy is really 5'3". He sounds like a shill, an infiltrator, put there to say in essence, that 'I'm one of you and I say heightism doesn't exist'. It wouldn't surprise me if he turned out to be Mr. heightboard in disguise.
Mr. 'bikerbats' goes on to say --
"I don't deny that there is a social bias towards tall people, or that taller people are generally considered better looking with everything else being equal."
How wonderful of him.
By the way I think I've found a photo of the famous r/short moderator ---
Not to be lookistic, but the impression I get is that we have a garden variety "little tough guy" here, who could make a lot of money in a Charles Manson look-alike contest. I'd love to see him without the sunglasses and the cowboy hat.
