Post by Heightism Report on Mar 26, 2017 18:44:37 GMT
There are a few important things about this post.
-It shows that people who actually listen to short men and observe the ways of the world will see that heightism is everywhere. Geoff Arnold once used the following analogy:
"Heightism is so ubiquitous in society that getting people to notice it is like getting a fish to realize that it's in water." This analogy explains how the tall guy saw the world because he mentions that he thought the only treatment his friend got because of his height was when they would exchange playful jabs back-and-forth. However, by listening, observing, and social experimentation, he was shocked at how prevalent a force heightism is.
-This post really got heightism conversation on Reddit started. We know that r/short pretty much botched everything that happened after that, but this post got a lot of attention and was handled properly, and we need to applaud that. Of course, many of the people in the comments just wanted to make idiotic top shelf "can't reach things" jokes, even though this post was talking about series issues, but this is the nature of heightism. Everything relating to short guys must be treated with humor because we're punchlines for merely daring to exist.
-This is the most well-received heightism post that has ever been posted on Reddit. So, when a tall man speaks against heightism, it is well-received, but when a short man(who actually suffers from heightism) speaks of heightism, he's insecure, not confident, has a Napoleon Complex, needs to "learn to own his height," has to hear nonsensical platitudes such as "If you don't care about your height, no one else will," and on-and-on. When a tall man speaks, people listen. When a short man speaks, people scold, mock, ridicule, laugh, emasculate, and get defensive.
Anyway, it was nice to see a tall man actually being a good friend to a short man by listening to his concerns.
Here's the post
"So I'm a tall guy (6'6'') and my best friend is (5'4''). We always joke about each others height. But then he told me how he finally came to terms with his short stature after years of torment and put downs (we're in our mid twenties), which came to a surprise to me because I always thought ppl just joked about it like we did. How mistaken I was!
To educate me on how different our worlds were he just told me that we should go everywhere together for a week but act like we're not friends and for me to just observe how people treated him.
The big and obvious things were over the weekend when we were out on Fri and Sat nights bar/club hopping. I know it's not an ideal place to find a "take her home to your parents" kind of deal. But witnessing him strike out was normal because most guys do. But the worst reply was a girl who made a snide noise like a disgusted gasp and told him that he should just quit while he was ahead…(she pauses) a head shorter! She and the two other girls she was with had a laugh on my buddy’s behalf (I call bitch status). I asked him why he didn’t get pissed or anything and he said that if he did, he would just be labeled as a short guy w/ a napoleon complex. He learned short guys can never be upset about their height or the way ppl treat him about his height. So it’s like a lose lose no matter what he does.
Today we just got back from Frys Electronics. He told me to walk in first and that I would be greeted with a hello and to watch him not get anything until he said something first. I walked in no eye contact w/ the employee at the entrance, I got a hello welcome to Frys. He comes in, also no eye contact, the employee sees him and just ignores him until he said good afternoon and he only gets a hi back, no “welcome to frys.” I was floored, he called it.
Another thing he pointed out is how tall people can be insecure about their height and society is okay with their issues w/ height. Which is true, I was made fun of a lot seeing how I was 5’9’’ in sixth grade, 6’ by middle school, and 6’4’’ by senior year. I hated being a tower over everybody including the teachers and hate when people point out my excessive height like I’m a freak show. “How’s the weather up there,” “You play basketball right?” I had insecurities w/ my height. It’s not so bad now but when women say they don’t get w/ short guys because they’re insecure, what about tall guys insecurities? You still get with them I presume. IDK I’m guessing they say that so they don’t feel shallow.
He told me so many other things as well but I don’t want this to become longer than it already is. But I want to ask if people treat people differently based on height? Do you know you’re actively doing it? Or is it because ppl actually feel taller men are automatically better or deserve preferential treatment over shorter guys?
TLDR – Learned a lot from my short friend that ppl treat him differently, didn’t believe him until he started pointing out instances. My world perception was shattered and lost some faith in humanity from what I saw. Didn’t know women can be so ugly (personality-wise) towards short guys.
EDIT: Wow! I never imagined I would get number 1 first page on askreddit. Thanks everybody. I will mention that a half dozen or so short guys have mentioned when they post similar content that they are usually down voted or chastised for speaking out, it's only since I'm tall that I'm getting positive comments. I asked my short friend about it and he said that he wouldn't know if being short was the case with the other guys because one cannot convey tone across the internet unless he (the OP) was truly being an ass about it, but nonetheless he wasn't surprised because short people tend to not have a good platform to speak of such matters that affect them. He told me to try and make a new account and pretend I'm a short guy posting the same topic and see whether people are more or less receptive on the matter concerning height disparities coming from a short person. I'll probably try that someday seeing how I cannot pretend being a short guy in real life or in person. Thanks again everybody, I'll still be answering as many comments as possible, I'm really interested in this seeing how my friend just opened up my world.
-It shows that people who actually listen to short men and observe the ways of the world will see that heightism is everywhere. Geoff Arnold once used the following analogy:
"Heightism is so ubiquitous in society that getting people to notice it is like getting a fish to realize that it's in water." This analogy explains how the tall guy saw the world because he mentions that he thought the only treatment his friend got because of his height was when they would exchange playful jabs back-and-forth. However, by listening, observing, and social experimentation, he was shocked at how prevalent a force heightism is.
-This post really got heightism conversation on Reddit started. We know that r/short pretty much botched everything that happened after that, but this post got a lot of attention and was handled properly, and we need to applaud that. Of course, many of the people in the comments just wanted to make idiotic top shelf "can't reach things" jokes, even though this post was talking about series issues, but this is the nature of heightism. Everything relating to short guys must be treated with humor because we're punchlines for merely daring to exist.
-This is the most well-received heightism post that has ever been posted on Reddit. So, when a tall man speaks against heightism, it is well-received, but when a short man(who actually suffers from heightism) speaks of heightism, he's insecure, not confident, has a Napoleon Complex, needs to "learn to own his height," has to hear nonsensical platitudes such as "If you don't care about your height, no one else will," and on-and-on. When a tall man speaks, people listen. When a short man speaks, people scold, mock, ridicule, laugh, emasculate, and get defensive.
Anyway, it was nice to see a tall man actually being a good friend to a short man by listening to his concerns.
Here's the post
"So I'm a tall guy (6'6'') and my best friend is (5'4''). We always joke about each others height. But then he told me how he finally came to terms with his short stature after years of torment and put downs (we're in our mid twenties), which came to a surprise to me because I always thought ppl just joked about it like we did. How mistaken I was!
To educate me on how different our worlds were he just told me that we should go everywhere together for a week but act like we're not friends and for me to just observe how people treated him.
The big and obvious things were over the weekend when we were out on Fri and Sat nights bar/club hopping. I know it's not an ideal place to find a "take her home to your parents" kind of deal. But witnessing him strike out was normal because most guys do. But the worst reply was a girl who made a snide noise like a disgusted gasp and told him that he should just quit while he was ahead…(she pauses) a head shorter! She and the two other girls she was with had a laugh on my buddy’s behalf (I call bitch status). I asked him why he didn’t get pissed or anything and he said that if he did, he would just be labeled as a short guy w/ a napoleon complex. He learned short guys can never be upset about their height or the way ppl treat him about his height. So it’s like a lose lose no matter what he does.
Today we just got back from Frys Electronics. He told me to walk in first and that I would be greeted with a hello and to watch him not get anything until he said something first. I walked in no eye contact w/ the employee at the entrance, I got a hello welcome to Frys. He comes in, also no eye contact, the employee sees him and just ignores him until he said good afternoon and he only gets a hi back, no “welcome to frys.” I was floored, he called it.
Another thing he pointed out is how tall people can be insecure about their height and society is okay with their issues w/ height. Which is true, I was made fun of a lot seeing how I was 5’9’’ in sixth grade, 6’ by middle school, and 6’4’’ by senior year. I hated being a tower over everybody including the teachers and hate when people point out my excessive height like I’m a freak show. “How’s the weather up there,” “You play basketball right?” I had insecurities w/ my height. It’s not so bad now but when women say they don’t get w/ short guys because they’re insecure, what about tall guys insecurities? You still get with them I presume. IDK I’m guessing they say that so they don’t feel shallow.
He told me so many other things as well but I don’t want this to become longer than it already is. But I want to ask if people treat people differently based on height? Do you know you’re actively doing it? Or is it because ppl actually feel taller men are automatically better or deserve preferential treatment over shorter guys?
TLDR – Learned a lot from my short friend that ppl treat him differently, didn’t believe him until he started pointing out instances. My world perception was shattered and lost some faith in humanity from what I saw. Didn’t know women can be so ugly (personality-wise) towards short guys.
EDIT: Wow! I never imagined I would get number 1 first page on askreddit. Thanks everybody. I will mention that a half dozen or so short guys have mentioned when they post similar content that they are usually down voted or chastised for speaking out, it's only since I'm tall that I'm getting positive comments. I asked my short friend about it and he said that he wouldn't know if being short was the case with the other guys because one cannot convey tone across the internet unless he (the OP) was truly being an ass about it, but nonetheless he wasn't surprised because short people tend to not have a good platform to speak of such matters that affect them. He told me to try and make a new account and pretend I'm a short guy posting the same topic and see whether people are more or less receptive on the matter concerning height disparities coming from a short person. I'll probably try that someday seeing how I cannot pretend being a short guy in real life or in person. Thanks again everybody, I'll still be answering as many comments as possible, I'm really interested in this seeing how my friend just opened up my world.