Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 3:55:32 GMT
Sorry for the long-ish break guys, I've been having trouble generating material to post
www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/esb64a/how_you_think_when_you_believe_blackpill_im_578/ So in this post the OP was complaining about dating, however multiple posters think heightism is laughable in terms of discrimination . The guy in the screenshot is obviously super height obsessed with height, using fractions and decimals and claiming a quarter inch makes any difference. However if you read the comments, you can find some of the biggest morons denying heightism by using every classic in the book, anecdotal evidence, blacks had it worse, celebrities, on one of the most heightist, victim blaming subs of all time. Fuck these idiots , they deserve to be tossed off a tall building for such nonsense. They even use examples of average heighted guys who have no problems to dismiss heightism, lmao. Here's some of the worst drivel in the thread.
I'll repeat, George Lucas, 5'7", married long before Star Wars. 2 inches won't make you a different person.
He is taller than I and I am happily married. Height is not your problem, mate.
I have a few mates below 5’9 and they’re onto a new girl every couple of weeks. Weird coincidence but they’re confident, funny, dress well and don’t have a preoccupation with their own height. Plus they wash and don’t spend all their time on a forum wallowing in their own misery. But as I say it’s just a weird coincidence.
The idea that being short leads to any kind of negative treatment by society is one of the most bullshit things to come out of the incel ideology. For reference, I’m 5’8”. Most guys in my friend group are between 5’6” and 5’10” and none of us have ever faced any “discrimination” for our heights.
And your height is in no way comparable to your race. Come back to me when there are hateful slurs that were historically used to refer to enslaved short people and short people are actively prevented from succeeding due to any systematic biases against them.
You're not getting rejected because of your height, you're getting rejected because your a twat.
Because racism is a real, actual thing that exists.
Nobody is discriminated against for being 5'7.
We dont make fun of his suffering. We make fun of the belief that being a certain height unlocks all posibilities in your life and that if you are shorter there isnt a future for you.
God, they make r/short look enlightened and aware in comparison. That place legitimately is rage inducing whenever height is talked about and an incel is mocked for it. How convenient the women are probably 95% of commenters.
|
|
|
Post by Heightism Report on Jan 23, 2020 4:13:57 GMT
Gee, imagine being that ignorant of heightism, still acting like an expert on it, using one celebrity as some sort of indisputable proof to disregard OP's experiences, acting like a hardass from behind a computer, and still having the audacity to believe that OP is the one who is a twat.
|
|
|
Post by Heightism Report on Jan 23, 2020 17:48:08 GMT
I'd like to elaborate on this a bit.
First, there's his nonsensical belief that "Incel Ideology" invented the concept of heightism, yet, the internet didn't even exist in 1971 when the concept of heightism was formally introduced at a sociology conference. Sociology having nothing to do with incel groups(and far preceding any such groups) is what came-up with the concept of heightism, and backed it with science. He chooses to ignore this to make his smug-ass argument, but his irrational foaming-at-the-mouth condescension doesn't disprove anything that has already been proven. This immediately destroys his argument and means he doesn't deserve to speak anymore.
Second, he claims that most of his friends are between 5'6-5'10, and claims that they have never experienced any heightism. First off, how does he know what they've experienced? Look at how much of a tantrum he throws when someone tries to discuss heightism. Why would they discuss it with someone who's so volatile toward short men? Also, since when do 5'6-5'10 guys speak holistically for guys who are 5'5 and below? The guys who are above 5'8 aren't even mathematically short so you can't definitively discard the concept of heightism when your knowledge pool has non-short individuals. Everyone who is the least bit educated about heightism knows that heightism operates on a continuum, and the shorter you are, the harsher the treatment you will receive. This really isn't a difficult concept to understand. Of course, you have to actually be attempting to understand the issue and not just trying to scold short men like this rage-o-loon is doing.
|
|
|
Post by Heightism Report on Jan 23, 2020 23:06:30 GMT
Also, if he can use an example of one famous short celebrity having a wife to deny the existence of all forms of heightism, why can't we use the example of that 20/20 segment "Short Men Get Short Shrift" (where the women said that in order to choose a short man over a tall man, the tall man would have to be a rapist or child molester) as evidence that heightism is a serious issue? In that case, he'd conveniently argue that those women are exceptions to the rule and that no other women feel that way because...yannno....George Lucas and shit.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 23:11:47 GMT
Right? It baffles my mind the majority of people think this way and that they make any sort of sense, anytime an counter argument or example is provided from us enlightened short men, they're allowed move the goalposts and allude to exceptions to the rule and they can fling one or two successful short male celebrities in our face and we're expected to believe it/ not shut that shit down like it should be.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 1:01:22 GMT
Classic example of programming these dolts receive to be NPC like in their responses. By their logic, nobody should be complaining and his average heighted friend can't be used as an example because shorter men have it worse (we have to be consistent with the starving child RP fallacy after all). And you're right, who in their right mind would feel comfortable confiding in someone who calls them a twat for literally telling it how it is? If one of his or anyone who posts on that trash-esque part of reddits' short friends killed theirselves because they got insulted when they vented or the complete lack of support in their life, I bet that *might* be the only time this rotting garbage would rethink what he said.
|
|
|
Post by Heightism Report on Jan 24, 2020 2:05:59 GMT
Right? It baffles my mind the majority of people think this way and that they make any sort of sense, anytime an counter argument or example is provided from us enlightened short men, they're allowed move the goalposts and allude to exceptions to the rule and they can fling one or two successful short male celebrities in our face and we're expected to believe it/ not shut that shit down like it should be. Goal post moving is seriously their favorite tactic. They tell you that you don't have proof that heightism exists, so you quote from studies and they say that you don't have enough studies. You point-out something as heightist, so they start tone-policing by whining about the fact that you weren't softspoken enough when you said it, thus, you have short man syndrome. When you point-out the Oxford study that the media reported as proving short man syndrome exists used all female participants, they start saying that you have no life because you spend so much time dissecting heightism studies. When you point-out tall men being rewarded for their height in numerous ways, they just flat-out make-up stories about how you're not confident enough, you don't work out enough, you don't get out of the house enough, and put an impossible burden on you to try to prove that the fictions they made about you aren't true(which is ridiculous considering that you can't disprove a falsehood that someone already allowed themselves to believe without any evidence) When they are ranting about Napoleon Complex, you aren't allowed to add subject matter because they'll move the goalposts to where you have to prove their bogus stereotype is false, and they'll keep moving the goalposts until you stop moving with them, and at that point, you're Kafka trapped because they'll say the fact that you aren't jumping through their hoops anymore is proof that you have Napoleon Complex. They can't stay focused on a single point because they have no objective argument in their favor, thus, they're just going to keep bouncing from one falsehood to another. This is the kind of stuff they can get away with when they hold all the power and we don't have enough support to hold them accountable for their shoddy logic.
|
|
|
Post by Heightism Report on Jan 24, 2020 2:31:36 GMT
If one of his or anyone who posts on that trash-esque part of reddits' short friends killed theirselves because they got insulted when they vented or the complete lack of support in their life, I bet that *might* be the only time this rotting garbage would rethink what he said. I have reason to believe that even if one of their short friends killed themselves over insults and lack of support, they still wouldn't re-think their trashcore beliefs. The reason I believe this is because every time I create a blog post about a short child committing suicide, a significant portion of the backlash I receive is for "making this about height when it's really just about bullying." So, basically, even when a short kid kills himself after prolonged torment specifically on account of his height, that still doesn't meet the burden-of-proof that it would take for these people to give any ground in-regard to viewing heightism as an issue that needs to be addressed. They boil all of the nuance out of these tragic events by lumping them as some form of generalized bullying where height was merely coincidental. It shows what level of opposition we face when child suicides don't jar people into reality, and people choose to log these incidents into their brains as an abstract concept of bullying without height being admitted as a factor. They do this so as to not have to give short men any consideration. People will fight tooth-and-nail to keep the status-quo in place when it comes to heightism, so they use these mental gymnastics to seal-off any potential portals that could lead to the truth seeing the light of day. It's extraordinarily disheartening to see how tight people clutch this particular set of pearls.
|
|
|
Post by HeightismAOS on Jan 26, 2020 4:44:15 GMT
Inceltears should use their own mentality on themselves.
Why are they ranting about angry short men when there are starving kids in Africa? Also, there are plenty of rich and successful women, gays, blacks, etc. so why is inceltears so butthurt? They also love using heightist sterotypes to control short men's behavior, so by their own logic they should shut up and stop antagonizing short men and incels so much, because doing so only creates more angry males.
Fortunately, I've seen plenty of people consider the inceltears forum as even worse than actual incel forums. Nothing more heroic than mocking and invalidating a bunch of already depressed men, then wondering why so many males are becoming disenchanted.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 4:54:37 GMT
Inceltears should use their own mentality on themselves. Why are they ranting about angry short men when there are starving kids in Africa? Also, there are plenty of rich and successful women, gays, blacks, etc. so why is inceltears so butthurt? They also love using heightist sterotypes to control short men's behavior, so by their own logic they should shut up and stop antagonizing short men and incels so much, because doing so only creates more angry males. Fortunately, I've seen plenty of people consider the inceltears forum as even worse than actual incel forums. Nothing more heroic than mocking and invalidating a bunch of already depressed men, then wondering why so many males are becoming disenchanted. Exactly. Have they never heard of the relative privitation, or do they just ignore it conveniently when it's included in an incel's original post? I've seen decent people like that too, but they sadly would be among r/unpopularopinion. It's funny because if they get accused of mocking incels they make a deflection like "we're not mocking depressed men, only ones who think being 2 inches taller will change their life". That was an actual comment. It goes like this:Women tell man to open up about feelings>male opens up about something out of his control that it's acceptable to make fun of>gets posted to inceltears/ attacked with misogynist strawman arguments on every space. The few times male emotions are addressed though, it gets put under the guise of "toxic masculinity" conveniently so women aren't culpable, as we men learn by society always portraying women in a positive light, with ideologies such as respect woman, be a gentleman, the husband sleeps on the couch etc being second nature. And this is accepted as gospel.
|
|
|
Post by HeightismAOS on Jan 26, 2020 5:14:42 GMT
It goes like this:Women tell man to open up about feelings>male opens up about something out of his control that it's acceptable to make fun of>gets posted to inceltears/ attacked with misogynist strawman arguments on every space. Yup. And when you don't talk about what's bothering you, you'll be labeled as promoting "toxic masculinity" by being stoic all the time and bottling everything up. They'll say, "Men are so much worse at sharing their feelings than women are."
But we're not bad at it, many men just realize they'll receive nothing but gaslighting and negative labels, so they don't bother anymore.
|
|